Reinstate Anthony petition now over 20,000

36  2014-07-08 by [deleted]

http://www.change.org/petitions/siriusxm-satellite-radio-reinstate-anthony-cumia

More of a show of support at this point but it's good to see numbers like this.

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It's the top petition of the day, just beating this possibly even more deserving one http://www.change.org/petitions/tumblr-that-all-users-of-tumblr-be-labelled-as-mentally-handicapped-landwhales

I'm fucking signing.

Wow we beat out 4chan, that's impressive.

nobody beats 4chan. you just delay the inevitable.

Why the fuck would we want them back on Sirius? That company did nothing but stifle them at every turn. They forced Roland as their booker, and let the show run downhill. This is the best thing for the show.

Live From The Compound is going to be amazing, and in October when Opie and Jimmy join him everything is going to be much much better.

Because I'd like to see Ant get rehired and then have them blow it all up properly.

haha for real. talk about going out with a whimper.

It's not about getting him back on Sirius. It's a representative number on how many cancellations of subs there potentially are. Also it helps pick up media attention, get the word out and makes it hurt Sirius.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Roland work for them for a while, then he left for some years, and then The Opester begged Sirius to bring him back on? Don't get me wrong, they're still a bunch of cunts, but I don't think they forced Roland on them.

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Does anyone have a guesstimate on how many subs they have lost because of this compared to their total sub number?

One article said 18k subs = ~$3 million in revenue annually.

Here's the link it's mentioned towards the bottom of the story.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/08/fans-rage-over-opie-minus-anthony.html

EDIT: added link

I don't care how rich a company is. The firing better have come from the top because if I had someone under me do a 3 million dollar decision because of "internet journalism" heads would roll.

Well I hear they just fired a guy that made 3 million a year soooo...

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ya but if you go into the math a little bit more he has already recieved probably 2.5 million of it since there is only 3 months left on the contract.

So Siruis still lost about 2.5 million I think.

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You suck at math.

No one thinks that this is a middle management move

Umm no. That's not what the article says. First, they say the standwithant page has 65k fans. It has 3k. It has 65k views. Big fucking difference. Second, the petition has 16k signed (21k now) you know how easy it is to bullshit signatures on change.org? If that thing has 20k signatures maybe 25% might be real people that have canceled. OK fine 5k. If you own the stock you know avg rev per sub isn't even $100/yr. Bottom line is that article did lead research than me which is pretty pathetic.

And how many cancelled without signing the petition? Or never posted on a message board? Or never followed Anthony on Twitter?

We don't know, it goes both ways. We'll find out in the next quarter.

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So in other words, you hit women. Gotcha

Does anyone have a count of how many Chip's have signed the petition?

I signed as Jerry Shepardini

Bill Tetley

Did you spell it out properly?

I wrote B I LLT ET LEY in the field you use to explain why you're signing. I probably could have added some Y's. I'm a faggot.

Fantastic

Hello Bill

Whats that?

Several.

We'll at least it's already over 9000.. Ugh

20,000 out of 25 million. Yeah, that'll really show them.

It will. Say that out those 20,000 signatures, 16,000 were legit and were paying say an approximate $15 per month for their sub, thats a little less than $3 million per year. Show me one business that thinks that its ok to lose $3 million in revenue per year because of a decision they made that had ZERO impact on the company. I have yet to see one person say "Thank you SiriusXM, I wasn't a subscriber before, but I'm going to sign up right now!"

They are publicly traded so everything is about quarterly projections and performance. Since they make most of the money from subscriptions, that is the number investors look at to decide how the stock is trending.

They have been accused of having saturated their market, so they need slow stable growth, if they can't make the numbers up (and then some) before the quarter is out, it will have bearing on the stock price and for the major stock holders, it is that price that determines how much they get on the next dividend and that determines the long and short view on the risk to reward of the stock.

They have a PE ratio of 5/6, so institutional investors are already a little jumpy on the long term prospects regardless of hirings and firings.

Well, how many people do you think would have cancelled if Sirius kept him? I doubt it would be in the hundreds let alone 20k. No business likes to lose money and Sirius is going to lose a little bit.

Adam Corolla made a comment about Ant's firing saying Sirius may not have fired Ant if the show was killing in the ratings department. I don't know.

Put your address as 117 Macdougal St, New York, NY

i mean don't you think the audience is much bigger? What's Op's youtube #'s? i would expect 100k or something, 20k isn't alot.

It is but most people in the audience don't bother with petitions or protests. I do hope they'll subscribe though to his podcasts once he starts it up.

I'm also not sure all the listeners are aware. Did they announce it on the radio? If not then there's probably a lot of people that just think they're on vacation.

It's just been "best of" since monday

I bet most listeners don't expose themselves to the show outside of the radio itself. I bet we see a lot of heat build back up next week. Sirius's plan might be to spread it out.

Ant has over 160k twitter followers.. Opie and Jim even more (and bobo, but that's bots). Not everyone has signed the petition obviously.

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nobody really knows how big the audience is, but judging from the angry tweets @siriusxm (not representative of everyone cancelling btw), it's pretty substancial

Kind of crazy how only 4 out of 20,000 could show up in New York City for a protest.

Yeah, because all O&A fans live in (expensive as hell) new york and are jobless.

Or multiple people signed the petition multiple times...no, they would never do that. Nevermind. Forget I said anything. If you can't believe in the sanctity of an internet petition, you can't believe in anything anymore.

Change has some system in place to prevent that from happening. It's unrelated to cookies and does some shit involving either your IP or MAC address. If you try changing your IP on the router, it still doesn't work for some reason, though.

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Maybe some of us dont care what he says on Twitter.

Well it appears others do.

Like his employers over at SIRIUS RADIO.

Yea. I know. Very fucked up that employers can keep tabs of what you say on your free time and use that to take your job away. There should be a law.

Live by the sword , die by the sword, its life

More like they defend a host who was fired because of pressure from some dickbag bloggers.

Who said anyone defends his actions? If you have been reading this sub the last few days most people disagree with what he said, and in fact have been getting sick of his racism for a while now.

That said, we all believe he should be allowed to say this shit. Also, you're implying that he's talking about an entire race when he's really talking about people who act a certain way. You know, people who start punching people in public for taking pictures of them.

Do you defend HER actions? Which leaves the question, which is worse violence or speech?

we all believe he should be allowed to say this shit.

AGREED .

Yup and he is allowed to say it too. He was not arrested or convicted under law.

But his employers should also be allowed to exercise their right to fire him, as stipulated in their agreed contract whenever he exercises his right to racism.

You cant defend one, and then try to force the hand of his employer. Freedom is a two way street.

Do you agree ?

People like you forced the hand of the employer though. He's said similar stuff to this on the show, yet he's been resigned a bunch of times. Do you really think if they didn't want this on their airwaves they would?

The company was forced into it because a minority of people who don't know who he is got upset that he's allowed to entertain people they don't know. It's nonsense. You aren't taking something away from yourself, you're demanding it be taken away from other's. You can honestly say that you don't enjoy anything anyone else could find offensive?

You're not thinking in a larger context. You're not thinking of the implications that you could be in my seat, losing entertainment you enjoy, or in Ant's seat, you said something offensive and lose your job over it.

If you think this is acceptable please write down all the things you've said that might be offensive and a way to contact your employer(s). I'd like to report you and get you fired. This is the actions you're approving of, seems only fair you be a victim of them.

sometimes I defend Opie too and Opie sux.

people on a sub reddit dedicated to a show defending the show's hosts? who would have thought. Also link to the actual twitter posts, or shut up.

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Coon you say ?

It's already being downvoted.

Good thing I dont care about karma

Then why did you bring it up?

Why not ?

That's not an answer to a question. If you can't answer the question then just say nothing and move on.

I brought it up because I know my opinion was contrary to the prevailing views in this thread, and I knew the downvotes would come.

I was interrupting the circlejerk.

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lol thats the exact opposite of what i said.

whatever makes you sleep t night buddy :)

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Do you listen to the show? Or are you saying you won't miss someone who didn't know existed before this?

Hey, Crusader, every one here knows the score. It's been on here since before it hit Gawker.

Have you ever been in a fight, where you got your ass kicked? Have you said anything that you might have regretted if it was on a bunch of different media outlets? Would you want people who don't know you, don't know what you do for a living and aren't supported by what you do to have a say in whether or not you can continue to do it?

I'm atheist but one thing that's stuck with me my entire life is treat others how you want to be treated. I've said some fucked up things in anger, I wouldn't want to be fired over them. Also there's TONS of media I absolutely hate, but people enjoy it, it gets views and I don't have to bother with it. So why would I waste my time crusading to get a show I don't watch/listen off the air ruining someone else's enjoyment?

No one expects you to enjoy the show and we are fine with you being pissed off. But actually approving someone being fired over their words is stupid. If you're ok with that, admit to your boss, in front of a crowd, every nasty, inappropriate thing you've ever said. If he doesn't fire you, demand he does. It's the only logical thing to do, right?

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Where have you been? It's over. SiriusXM has no intention of rehiring him. You could have 200,000 names on that petition and it won't change anything.

why do you even bother posting at this point?

Clearly because people like you are still trying to peddle fake optimism when you know as well as anyone that it's not happening.

That really didn't answer the original question...If you find their efforts futile why waste your energy commenting?

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"More of a show of support at this point" You're a smart one.

well said.

Upvote.

No one thinks that this is a middle management move

Well I hear they just fired a guy that made 3 million a year soooo...

Why not ?

Well it appears others do.

Like his employers over at SIRIUS RADIO.