Alison also talks about him in the news section, After the Joan Rivers story. I just perused through the podcast to find the Ant stuff(i'm subscribed to carolla's podcast and him talking about cumia was in the show description),but it's worth a listen. He talks about how the people that do this don't care about the people they are supposedly defending,how SiriusXM started out as a hip company and is now the man,also referenced Jonah hill, he invited them on the show to talk about it etc etc. Mostly very supportive considering their past differences. Great exposure,he is one of the most popular podcasts out there. A lot of thanks to that caller in Boston.
EDIT:How fucking weird it is that Ed Asner is today's guest,You know the one that gave Opie his nickname "The destroyer"
Ant will be on Carolla pretty soon, in the next month or two. He's gonna hit the podcast circuit to promote LFTC and whatever new ventures he gets into.
Carolla is a great broadcaster and made some valid points. I just wish he wouldn't have to lap Howard's ball's in the process. To say Howard is anti-PC in these times is just a lie.
Well, it was 15-20minutes, but some bullet points:
Sirius is within its legal right to fire him, just like when a comedian says something in his stand-up act, and he gets fired from his sitcom.
But, SiriusXM was created for, and marketed as, being edgy. "We can say 'cunt' and 'fuck' here." It's just weird when someone who starts out going up against "the man" becomes "The Man."
It's almost this reverse McCarthyism, where everyone is telling on everyone, and the really weird part is that no one is sincere about being offended anyway.
Carrolla said "we started a pirate ship here, no one can fire us, and O&A need to build a pirate ship."
...he was using the word "over" as in "because of", not as in "via". Any was fired because of the twitter rants that got picked up by internet tabloids. Sirius fired him via email, not via Twitter, which Carolla didn't comment on the method used to fire him anyway.
They go over it again near the end. Some hole read out the tweets that he put up and Adam said that if it was a white person who attacked him and he called them animals no one would care. He's basically saying Ant was justified in saying things out of anger.
I don't think you can know that for definite. Carolla made that point that if he personally was attacked by a group of white guys he would have conceivably described them as a "gang of savages".
Plausible deniability? I dunno. It was more from an outsiders perspective. Carolla made the point and I agree with it. But you're right Anthony's views and previous statements do muddy the waters somewhat. In this case it was slightly more justified though because he was attacked...and he chose to insult those attackers on Twitter with insults. Also personally when I hear the word "savage" my thought isn't black person. I either think of Tarzan/amazonian types...or I think of a UFC fighter who beats people up for a living. That's all subjective though I guess...I'm adding nothing now...just worthless babble. Sorry.
No reason to be sorry i don't have a particular agenda for the discussion. This definitely hurts a bit cause I often see Opie and Anthony as a show that's fairly "meta" in that they understand and discuss the nature of media, what public comments and actions really mean, and the reasoning behind them.
While not everyone thinks of these things the same way, Anthony definitely knows what he was saying. I say if he wants back in he goes with a condition or something.
I'm sure he has another word for that. Anyway he got fucked up on angst. I can tell cause now his latest tweets are "I have a black friend" which he almost certainly wouldn't do normally cause of how obvious it is.
Like wiggers? Or white thugs? He's known Carlton for a while and has tweeted and talked about him before. He's making fun of the fact that everyone thinks he's talking about all black people when he's really talking about a certain group of them.
Wow he is long winded and uninteresting. I've tried listening to his podcast three or four times and find him unbearably boring.
I think his main point is that people should be able to say unpopular things without losing their jobs. And that Sirius has gone from being sort of 'against the man' to being 'the man.'
I wanted to like it but two things drove me insane. It felt like a staged radio show, like they had bullet points to get to and I hate that rigid boring format. The other thing is I heard a comic go on and just did his act, which was stuff he had in a Comedy Central hour special. I just couldn't stomach listening to another show.
37 comments
15 Zenaesthetic 2014-07-07
Carolla is good guy, I figured we'd be able to rely on him for support.
14 anonimescu 2014-07-07
Alison also talks about him in the news section, After the Joan Rivers story. I just perused through the podcast to find the Ant stuff(i'm subscribed to carolla's podcast and him talking about cumia was in the show description),but it's worth a listen. He talks about how the people that do this don't care about the people they are supposedly defending,how SiriusXM started out as a hip company and is now the man,also referenced Jonah hill, he invited them on the show to talk about it etc etc. Mostly very supportive considering their past differences. Great exposure,he is one of the most popular podcasts out there. A lot of thanks to that caller in Boston. EDIT:How fucking weird it is that Ed Asner is today's guest,You know the one that gave Opie his nickname "The destroyer"
6 no1raniuk 2014-07-07
"Ed Asner is today's guest" - he clearly didn't recognize the name Opie and Anthony though!
3 GGINQUISITOR 2014-07-07
I kept hoping he'd remember that and call them names.
1 ThePittWolf 2014-07-07
I feel like the only time I hear of Ed Asner is when he's on the 2nd tier media outlets I listen to like Carolla and O&A
10 [deleted] 2014-07-07
Ant will be on Carolla pretty soon, in the next month or two. He's gonna hit the podcast circuit to promote LFTC and whatever new ventures he gets into.
8 joshqueens2 2014-07-07
He's so fucking right about the reverse-mccarthyism thing
4 conchopeterpumper 2014-07-07
Carolla is a great broadcaster and made some valid points. I just wish he wouldn't have to lap Howard's ball's in the process. To say Howard is anti-PC in these times is just a lie.
1 PatrickBlackbrn 2014-07-07
Adam is a HUGE Stern guy. Can't knock him for the love he throws his way.
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21 Earguy 2014-07-07
Well, it was 15-20minutes, but some bullet points:
Sirius is within its legal right to fire him, just like when a comedian says something in his stand-up act, and he gets fired from his sitcom.
But, SiriusXM was created for, and marketed as, being edgy. "We can say 'cunt' and 'fuck' here." It's just weird when someone who starts out going up against "the man" becomes "The Man."
It's almost this reverse McCarthyism, where everyone is telling on everyone, and the really weird part is that no one is sincere about being offended anyway.
Carrolla said "we started a pirate ship here, no one can fire us, and O&A need to build a pirate ship."
-5 misfitlove 2014-07-07
OOoo arrrr or sumphin tsst tssssst
1 ThePittWolf 2014-07-07
Old Black Beard Cumia and his Floating Water Compound
1 havingmadfun 2014-07-07
Ooofff
10 ib--90 2014-07-07
he's supporting anthony
-16 JW1988 2014-07-07
Very vague.... "It's strange now a days that you can get fired over twitter" Dudes just totally uninformed, which is fine I suppose
3 BohPoe 2014-07-07
...he was using the word "over" as in "because of", not as in "via". Any was fired because of the twitter rants that got picked up by internet tabloids. Sirius fired him via email, not via Twitter, which Carolla didn't comment on the method used to fire him anyway.
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1 [deleted] 2014-07-07
Carolla's interview with Gavin Newsom is the sort of thing Anthony could be doing if he can keep his anger in check.
1 gumby510 2014-07-07
Love how Ed Asner of all people defended some of ants tweets lol
-9 no1raniuk 2014-07-07
They go over it again near the end. Some hole read out the tweets that he put up and Adam said that if it was a white person who attacked him and he called them animals no one would care. He's basically saying Ant was justified in saying things out of anger.
19 dankfranklin 2014-07-07
Alison Rosen is actually funny and completely not a "hole" whatsoever.
4 erect_member 2014-07-07
true statement, alison is the (wo)man
2 Piss_Legislator_ 2014-07-07
I was furious when they hired another 'newswoman' but Alison has been hilarious since day 1.
0 no1raniuk 2014-07-07
Haha! I knew someone would pick me up on that. I've honestly got no prior knowledge of Carolla's show and was just being flippant.
7 Zenaesthetic 2014-07-07
Alison is less of a hole then most men are in the radio/podcasting business.
3 anubgek 2014-07-07
Yea if it were a white person he wouldn't have said animals or savages. That's the point.
6 no1raniuk 2014-07-07
I don't think you can know that for definite. Carolla made that point that if he personally was attacked by a group of white guys he would have conceivably described them as a "gang of savages".
4 anubgek 2014-07-07
Why are we going to act like we don't know Anthony? I mean come on we know what it was and we've been hearing it for quite a few years.
2 no1raniuk 2014-07-07
Plausible deniability? I dunno. It was more from an outsiders perspective. Carolla made the point and I agree with it. But you're right Anthony's views and previous statements do muddy the waters somewhat. In this case it was slightly more justified though because he was attacked...and he chose to insult those attackers on Twitter with insults. Also personally when I hear the word "savage" my thought isn't black person. I either think of Tarzan/amazonian types...or I think of a UFC fighter who beats people up for a living. That's all subjective though I guess...I'm adding nothing now...just worthless babble. Sorry.
0 anubgek 2014-07-07
No reason to be sorry i don't have a particular agenda for the discussion. This definitely hurts a bit cause I often see Opie and Anthony as a show that's fairly "meta" in that they understand and discuss the nature of media, what public comments and actions really mean, and the reasoning behind them.
While not everyone thinks of these things the same way, Anthony definitely knows what he was saying. I say if he wants back in he goes with a condition or something.
2 mufdvr3669 2014-07-07
I bet if they were ghetto acting white kids he would have.
1 anubgek 2014-07-07
I'm sure he has another word for that. Anyway he got fucked up on angst. I can tell cause now his latest tweets are "I have a black friend" which he almost certainly wouldn't do normally cause of how obvious it is.
3 mufdvr3669 2014-07-07
Like wiggers? Or white thugs? He's known Carlton for a while and has tweeted and talked about him before. He's making fun of the fact that everyone thinks he's talking about all black people when he's really talking about a certain group of them.
-12 wifflebb 2014-07-07
Wow he is long winded and uninteresting. I've tried listening to his podcast three or four times and find him unbearably boring.
I think his main point is that people should be able to say unpopular things without losing their jobs. And that Sirius has gone from being sort of 'against the man' to being 'the man.'
2 majestik6 2014-07-07
Give it a few tries it grows on u
1 majestik6 2014-07-07
Give it a few tries it grows on u
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0 insanemetal187 2014-07-07
I wanted to like it but two things drove me insane. It felt like a staged radio show, like they had bullet points to get to and I hate that rigid boring format. The other thing is I heard a comic go on and just did his act, which was stuff he had in a Comedy Central hour special. I just couldn't stomach listening to another show.
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19 dankfranklin 2014-07-07
Alison Rosen is actually funny and completely not a "hole" whatsoever.
3 anubgek 2014-07-07
Yea if it were a white person he wouldn't have said animals or savages. That's the point.
7 Zenaesthetic 2014-07-07
Alison is less of a hole then most men are in the radio/podcasting business.
1 ThePittWolf 2014-07-07
Old Black Beard Cumia and his Floating Water Compound
1 havingmadfun 2014-07-07
Ooofff