As a fan from the show from back in the late '90s, I find it laughable that people are trying to act like they can come back from this.

First and foremost, "shock jockery" is dead. There is no demand for this kind of morning team anymore. Secondly, Anthony Cumia IS a racist. That's a fact. If you look at everything he's said and done, right down to having pick-a-ninny lawn ornaments and regularly visiting "Niggermania", and you can still try to assert he's not a racist, it could only be because you are one your self.

And based on that alone, NO corporation will align themselves with him. None.

Does he have a right to be a racist? Sure! Do companies have to hire a racist? Fuck no.

The real losers here are Op and Jimmy. Anthony fucked them with his insane bullshit. As Burr once said to Anthony...you're a guy with millions of dollars and a great life, how do black people have an impact on you so negatively?

More importantly, this is the first time only one of the team has been fired. The show isn't canceled...Anthony is canceled.

Now, if you're Opie...you're married, you're a father, and you're 50. Do you put Anthony and his racist bullshit before all of that? Only an irresponsible idiot would do such a thing.

Anthony is 80% of the talent.

Agreed. But what this really comes down to now is how much faith does Opie and Jimmy have in their audience? Would you sit and collect guaranteed money, or would you bail on it, for the principle that Anthony should be able to say racist things if he wants, and then HOPE that your audience will actually pay for a podcast?

The reality is, the O&A fanbase is a shell of what it once was. At least from what I see. I could see them doing ok if they charged a monthly fee AND had paid ads, but podcasting really hasn't found a solid revenue stream as far as ads go. Then you have to add the obstacle of finding companies willing to advertise on a now known racist's show.

Basically, it would be a huge gamble for Opie and Jimmy, with Anthony being the only guy who has nothing to lose now.

I guess we'll all see, but they aren't young guys anymore...they aren't in the phase of their lives where they're career building...they're more in the career security phase.

What of they don't want to continue? Maybe they all want out of the Sirius contract.

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Finally someone making some fucking sense in this forum

Well said. I'm curious, how is Anthony a millionaire but not Opie? Or is he but just doesn't talk much about it?

I would think Opie is more wealthy than Ant. Ant was paying shit tons of money to his ex for years, and Op was notoriously a penny pincher.

Anthony's net worth is 15 million. Opie's is 20 million. Jimmy's is 5 I think.

They are all fine and will be fine regardless of what happens. I am sure Ant and Opie have major investments.

Ah okay. I figured they were all wealthy, I guess Anthony gloated the most about it.

He is, and he's said so. I believe "multi multi" is a phrase I've heard from Opie.

Plus Opie doesn't go spending the average person's annual salary at the Borgata every weekend so I'm willing to bet he's got a good back up plan

Both of them are into the market. It's all about the puts and the calls.

*buts

A-fucking men. First bit of sanity in pages of this sub.

I don't think they'll be on the radio again, especially because I don't think them or us would deal with censorship again. But they have, has opie has said "f u money." And I don't think they NEED to work anymore.

Then there's podcasts which are starting to peak, real ad dollars are coming in because multiple ones are getting respectable amounts of listens. If O and A can put up over a million listens a week, they will find advertisers. Money always beats morals. Companies will wait for the heat to die down, which is how long it will take for everyone to mitigate over. Everyone who is outraged now will forget who Anthony is and it will go relatively back to normal.

The only odd thing is what opie and jimmy will do and are allowed to do. I'm unsure if SXM owns their brand so they can't go on the air as the opie and Anthony show while not on SXM airwaves. Or how it works. It might be LFTC until October until the crew is reunited.

Orrrr opie and jimmy blow it up Monday to move on as a team.

Honestly, it's enraging to see this happen but I'm not worried about it. The show is only done if the guys don't want to do it anymore.

I think the thing you are missing is that O&A are lazy. Even if they do a podcast or internet stream, they will not cultivate it to it's full potential. After a while it may die down to nothingness. I hate to say it, because I also believe that they could take it to the next level, but it just seems that they have lost that will to fight for more and are just complacent.

Have you seen the studio ant has? That's something he got as a hobby basically. I don't think it was $100k like they joked about a while back but it sure as fuck isn't cheap. Again, he got it and uses it for the lulz. If they want to have the show they will, even if it's not at Anthony's house.

Lazy is the impression you get because it's a reflection of the respect they get/got at SXM.

God damn, i was wondering how many people actually listen to the show. They do the absolute best they can despite being held down by sirius

I think too many people get caught up in the "show" front. They think the bitching is a front, like calling erock fat. Also they take the sprint out the door when the show ends like they are phoning it in.

The truth always comes out if you listen to it. It's a bunch of guys who tasted real fame and are dying to return to it. They are watching people pass them by and are being held back by a company that's giving them too much money to ignore.

These events could be the end of the show or it could be the beginning of their 2nd wind. It's really up to them. It's not like they don't know what to do.

To anyone who thinks that Anthony is a bonafide racist, I recommend you listen to some of the Patrice O'Neal appearances. Anthony gets annoyed and acts out, but he's no racist. Not by a long shot.

This is extremely well said.

"Anthony fucked them with his insane bullshit." WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING ASSAULT? Why are you leaving that out? Why does everyone leave it out? Burr asked how black people have an impact....well, being assaulted is not fun. Also, seeing thousands of blacks kill themselves across the country is not a great situation. Some people may look at all the murder and ignore it. Anthony decides to talk about it....RACIST!

We all know how Ant feels. Patrice didn't like white people......RACIST! Patrice had a problem with the Chinese......RACIST! We loved him. Same with Ant. He wouldn't harm a fucking fly and you know it. He gets attacked and so many are playing the 'well, he's a racist, so he got what he deserved card'. Fuck that.

Also, when black guests were on the show and he laughed and talked to them, is that just all fake? Was he boiling inside. Why didn't he just refuse to be in the same studio? Because this is racism defined by others. Vos made horrible/hilarious racial jokes directly to black men. I guess he's a racist too. Same goes for Jimmy, Howard Stern, Sherrod Small, Patrice, Louis Ck, AND Burr.

Ant should have known not to go on Twitter, it's the HR of entertainers. But, he got assaulted and that's being swept under the rug. That's the travesty of the situation.

You can handle a situation responsibly without being a racist asshole. Anthony decided not to do it that way.

The assault that there was no police report for, no witnesses to, and that has no tangible evidence to having ever occurred other than Ant's word? Hell, not even a pic of Ant's eye that had blurred vision from repeated blows according to him?

No, I didn't forget about it. I just have no proof it ever happened, so I'm going off of what I DO KNOW happened.

Stop drinking from the guy's cock, and think for a second.

The assault that there was no police report for,

This is a silly argument, as ant said he blocked most of the shots and wasnt hurt by it, he dint get any of his equipment broken and he was completely fine. WHY would he goto the cops? It makes no fucking sense to waste an hour on something that the cops are going to ignore in the first place.

He claimed he had blurred vision from the assault.

Point is, you have no proof it ever happened other than his word. So the ONLY thing people truly have to go by, is what they saw.

Blurred vision? He was fine in the end. Blurred vision isn't worth going to the police over.

seriously even if he went to the cops then what? It's just a waste of time, especially in NYC at 3am. They're not going to go out and look for her.

I don't know where this thinking is coming from. You've obviously never been in a fight, everyone knows that if both parties are fine you don't goto the cops.

Let's try this one more time.

My point is THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT AN ASSAULT HAPPENED OTHER THAN ANT'S WORD.

I realize that being the obvious MMA champion that you are, that reading comprehension may not be your forte...so I hope the all caps thing helped you grasp my point this time.

oh so you think he just got home at 3 am and decided to make it up?

yea makes perfect sense. Except for the pictures of her right infront of him obviously smacking him.

Jesus christ you people, i dont agree with what he said but it doesnt mean you have to go full retard.

Funny how no one has discussed how he got away from the situation in Times Sq. Did he just show his gun under his jacket and they scattered or what?

Oh you must have seen something no one else did. I saw two pics of her. One was the shot he was taking where she was walking towards him, the other was the blurred up close one. NEITHER proves an assault took place, just a confrontation.

Amazing how you see what you want to see, call it 'obvious' and then suggest other people are retarded. I forgot how idiotic radio fanboy sycophants can be!

So you honestly believe that 0 assault took place and she dint hit him.

Then he went home and lied about getting hit?

right...

Either if there was proof of him getting assaulted, who gives a fuck? Do you think anyone would actually care, if you haven't noticed no one cares whether he was or wasn't assaulted. Everyone cares about what he said after.

Do you even listen to the show? Its obvious you dont. Youre also from fucking Delaware, NY and Delaware attitudes towards police are completely different. Every newyorker knows there was 0 point of filing a police report on this.

But opie IS an idiot!

Seriously tho your post is bumming me out you really think they're done? No independent podcast or anything?

The only way I would imagine they would attempt it would be if they think they have a viable podcast business model. Carolla is the greatest example of leaving radio with a strong audience and making a life in the podcast world, but I don't think anyone knows if he's making the same kind of money that he was.

I don't think it's entirely un-doable for them, but I guess it would come down to how strong their desire to continue on and rebuild from here is. I remember when they first came to XM...they knew they had to rebuild, but they were HOT off their WNEW career, and embarking on a new and exciting format. But that was 10 years ago this October. Do they have that same kind of drive? I guess we'll see.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/celebrity/popular-profitable-podcasts-itunes/

I'm actually ashamed of myself for forgetting Leo and the TWIT network. But let's take him as an example. Leo does, if we're just talking about TWIT and not his multitude of other more specific tech shows...one episode a week. So that's $50k in total a week.

Split $50k (IF they are making that kind of money, which they won't be initially) between Op, Ant, and Jimmy...then pay for bandwidth and other overhead. What would be left? Would it equate to whatever they are making with SiriusXM?

I once heard Carolla claim his bandwidth was around $9K a month, and that was LONG before his show exploded. So it's entirely feasible that by now, his bandwidth is double or triple that amount.

Then you have a crew to pay. A studio location...on and on.

Obviously we would assume that O&A would do their normal daily show, so they'd do 5 shows a week and have a subscription plan.

Smartest move? An app with a live feed, and then the show is available for download immediately after the show is over. But now how much money are we talking?

Again, I guess it all depends on what the business model is, and if they have the drive to do it.

Taking all of this Twitter scandal away, I never understood why guys like O&A, Stern, and Limbaugh didn't just create their own networks with all of today's technology considered. I can only assume it doesn't make sense after the math is done.

I disagree with AnudderCast. Both of them said how bored they were during the 2 year hiatus from radio. I think they will still want to do something, even if it's for low amount of money (because they have plenty of it).

If fleshlight or Adam and Eve (dohhhhl) can pay just enough in advertising to cover the cost of making some kind of independent show, like Joe Rogan has, then it seems likely to me that they would do it. The one who would feel the pinch is Jimmy but that is why he has been getting himself involved on other things the past couple of years - tv, his own radio shows, and always he keeps doing standup - because he knew this gravy train was gonna end someday and he wasn't going to be able to keep collecting a paycheck from SiriusXM.

So, I think give it a few weeks or even a couple of months, and O&A will be doing something again, possibly without Jimmy though (depending on whether Jim can afford to do it, or needs to do more gigs and stuff to keep paying his own bills and just wouldn't be able to devote the time to a gig that isn't paying well).

Fuck with the whole racist thing. Visiting niggermania doesn't make you a racist. All of you young 20 somethings were raised in a post Columbine world. After that the whole idea of "bullying" became evil, saying anything offensive is worse than hitting someone. He has never stood for white national socialism or any racist group. If he is so racist why would his former employee "black earl" stand by him and bald, white, douchey, can't play guitar hero, danny ross not? Surely his white employees would have fonder memories of him than his minority ones. A real racist would take joy in subjugating a minority at any given time. You fucking people don't get the difference between offensive, "cringe" humor and actual hate. Take a step back and look at the man's actual actions. You're just as bad as the people that clamored for his job to be taken

Fine he's a funny racist. Along with being a borderline pedo. Still funny, but Ant himself knew this was coming. He mentioned several times he knows this will end badly on the radio.

I'm 43. And at 43 I'm not really in to hero worship, and I have an adult view of how the world works. Adults don't feel the need to visit 'Niggermania' and have Pick-A-Ninny lawn ornaments, because they're indicators of where your mind is. Pretend all you want...Ant is a racist. I don't personally care if he's a racist, but I'm not dumb enough to drink the Kool Aid and try to suggest he isn't one.

Cherry?

So laughing at fat jokes means you hate fat people, laughing at rape jokes makes you a rapist, laughing at gay jokes makes you a homophobe?

No it doesn't. But that's not what Anthony is anymore.

Go back to The Greaseman scandal, and the bit 'Greaseola Crayons' that they did. That was an example of laughing at racist material without actually being racist. Sure, the politically correct would have gotten easily offended by that bit, but there was a clear difference there in two guys BEING racist vs. doing racist comedy.

Let's take the day after Obama was re-elected....Anthony went on a shameful racist tirade. Saying that blacks only voted for Obama because he was black too, because they had no ability to understand the issues. In his anger he even said "There's a word I want to use SO BADLY right now, but I can't." What word do you think that might have been on uncensored satellite radio?

Anthony has been way over the line for quite a while with this shit, and if you're being intellectually honest, you'll admit it's true. It's why it's been a running joke on the show. It's why Bill Burr had it out with him on air YEARS ago. It's why he's been fired now.

Again, I don't give a shit if Anthony is a racist....but sitting here acting like an injustice has occurred because a company doesn't want affiliation with that kind of shit is fucking moronic, and can only be suggested by people who have no idea how the real world works.

So when 95+% of blacks vote for the black guy it has nothing to do with color and only the issues at hand? Yet 60+% of white males vote for mccain or Romney and the national media goes with that as a race issue.... Yeah, I see your point. He was wayyyyy off base.

I was waiting for this response.

He actually admitted in that very same conversation that he voted for Romney because Romney was white like him, and therefore "he would better understand my issues." while simultaneously condemning blacks for doing the same thing, and suggesting they didn't have the ability to understand the issues.

THAT is how racist the guy is. He believed another ethnicity to not be entitled to make decisions the very same way he did and that they were intellectually inferior if they had.

Spin it all you want, the guy is racist. Him being fired over his rhetoric was a long time coming. In fact, at the very least he's a fucking idiot when he KNOWS other people have been fired for much less than the shit he's done over the years. So you pick...racist or moron?

But seriously, you're 43. Do you not understand hyperbole? Anthony fucking weighed in on all of the issues and time and time again said why he supported who he did and why he didn't support Obama. Ant would have voted for Herman Caine over Obama, and at least Obama is half white, Caine is Wesley Snipes dark. He is against social programs, he doesn't like being taxed to death and dead beats getting his money. And there is no way that 95+% of blacks agree with Obama on the issues. Especially considering how many of them are religious and against gay marriage and abortion. For fuck's sake how many black guests have come in and Ant riffed with them. Who do you think helped Patrice's career the most on his visits? Opie or Ant? How many fucking great bits are there of those two riffing? Would a racist really want to help a minority excel? Jesus. Actions over words dude.

Yes they would. Donald Sterling.

He profits from them excelling, brainiac. His ticket sales a directly proportional to how good his team is. Fucking shit dude. Ant doesn't own anyone in there. Also before you come back with "his ratings effect his pay, so he needs them for a good show", he has shut down on more than one occasion when he didn't like someone, and those people don't usually come back, and they are a veritable rainbow of colors, including white. A lot of comics give O&A credit for how big they are, radio personalities can really help make or break a career. Ant knows this. So again: Why the fuck would he help out those who he "hates". I want a strong answer. You have 43 years of life experience on your side.

First off, Anthony's comments became a lot more harsh regarding race after Patrice died. That said, I honestly don't think Patrice would have cared one way or the other. Patrice was an anomaly in a lot of ways where it came to what he was offended by. But I do have to laugh at how everyone keep evoking his name as Anthony's golden parachute.

And I seriously laugh at your assertion that Anthony made Patrice's career...I think Anthony would even laugh at that.

Did they give Patrice exposure? Sure! But if Patrice wasn't funny as shit, he wouldn't have been a success. Anthony didn't dub him 'Sir Patrice of The House Comedy' and off he went! Anthony creating great radio with Patrice was mutually beneficial.

Furthermore, there's a chasm of difference in being a racist and being a malicious racist. Anthony's belief systems are well documented when it comes to the black race. He's even stated he feels different races are born behind the curve and that their ability to overcome their disadvantage is up to the individual.

That is textbook racism...the belief that one race is 'less than' one's own.

This all doesn't mean that Anthony actively tries to undermine the black community, just that he isn't very fond of it. And again, I don't care whether he is or isn't. But when you spew certain shit in certain ways, you've set the table for your own demise.

So why does Burr think Anthony is a racist? Why did Burr unfollow Ant on Twitter?

I never said he "made" his career. I just said that he helped him, just as he helped all the other comics, equally. We bring up Patrice because of the strong bond those two had. We can name far more things that anthony hates rather than likes, this includes white people. I can think of maybe 5 white people that come in that Ant may like as much as Patrice. There is your reason why so many people bring him up. Do you listen to Burr's podcast? His wife won't let him say fag anymore. She hates white people in dreadlocks and has said some other shit. She is textbook SJW. Also Burr doesn't follow Opie either. So I don't think anyone other than him can give a definitive answer as to why he doesn't follow ant at this time. Fine though. You win. I can't wait for the people like anthony to fade off into the shadows and everyone to spew the same agenda. That is the way freedom will reign supreme and America wins. So glad I watched my buddies die for this shit.

Option c: patriot.

dude don't question him, he's 43

He shouldn't question Ant. Tony can call him "kiddo".

I just want my fucking Jocktober.

This. Absolutely this. It was honestly the first thing I thought of when I thought if the show not being around anymore.

How about the fact you won't ever hear chip or uncle Paul again Jim doesn't do them at his comedy shows hardly at all....

What's that?

Ehh. It was kinda a bit that didn't need to happen anymore. We've been conditioned to make the jokes in our head when they presented themselves.

No different than Ant's bell. After a while listening to the show, I learned to expect the bell. I guess I'm a Pavlov's racist?

I'll miss Ted if anything.

My main issue is that there's no way a podcast is going to have the same energy as the show currently does. Are Sam, Erock, Roland, Travis, Denny, etc all going to leave Sirius for an independently run podcast? I know they each individually catch their share of shit from the audience, but the show is going to sound a little more dead without them on board. Plus where would they record/film it? Ant's compound in Long Island? Very few guests will be able to get out there.

I think they should seek out a partnership with a large media company in Manhattan. It doesn't even have to be a radio company. Sirius probably wasn't even the ideal format for them anyway, as they desperately needed a visual element that Sirius was unwilling to provide. Almost any company that can do online streaming would work better. The only thing that Sirius offers in terms of content distribution that is unique is their radio receivers, but those are seeming to be increasingly unnecessary (keeping in mind, that technology was developed in a world where smartphones and apps were less prevalent than they are today). I think the whole idea of "satellite radio" will end up being seen as a sort of technological stopgap before it's all just streamed online. The only demo I can see having a real need for true satellite radio is long-haul truckers. Everyone else uses their smartphones for streaming Pandora and other services. Why does radio have to be any different?

Are Sam, Erock, Roland, Travis, Denny, etc all going to leave Sirius for an independently run podcast?

They aren't needed.

The current staff is pretty boring. They have been lacking a wild card for a while.

Eastside Dave?

This staff blows. O and A are the heart and soul, respectively.

I will need to travel to the surface of the sun to combat these douche chills from your comment

Okay I forgot Jimmy, but I stand by what I say about Erock and Sam. They exist to be the butt of dumb jokes I've heard a zillion times. And wrestling sucks

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Sam is pretty talented at stirring things up, like manipulating Ladi Di into annoying the boys, and good at brining a younger perspective to the show. Most of the boys are pretty out of touch with a lot of things. I don't think Norton has heard any music past 1995. ERock is great as their punching bag which leads to a lot of entertaining bits. Most of the Denny bits have also been gold.

Who's going to do all the busy work that goes into producing a radio show?

someone else, it's not like they are irreplaceable.

Keep Erock, Travis, and of course Denny.

I fucking love Sam. I hate his voice and his celebrity and wrestling obsession, but good Lord, is he a talented instigator and a sarcastic motherfucker. My favorite part of any Jocktober is when Sam says, "Well, I'm looking at their facebook page, and they have some weird fans..." as he's choking back laughter.

I think he's good during the show like that, but the pre and post shows, I just can't listen.

Yeah, I've never listened to his show.

shit show was great

He's not talented, he's just good at stirring up drama.

I hope he makes out with a train like Lady Di's husband.

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But he's good enough at stirring it up that it makes up for everything else.

"[The boss] was asking Roland why he wasn't at the meeting, and Roland just babbled incoherently at him until he gave up."

ERock gets paid $100k+ at SXM. I don't see him quitting.

How do you know this?

It was mentioned a few days ago of I'm not mistaken.

Someone who understands the show as well as Sam does is pretty much irreplaceable.

I wouldn't worry about it. There are so many professional quality podcasts now, you clearly don't need corporate money to do it. Even if the show devolves into O&A recording themselves on a laptop microphone and taking calls on Skype, 99% of fans would be happy with it.

Ant seams to have the basics done and ready to go with the quality of LFTC. All they need is a site to host and distribute the podcast.

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We'll see how loyal they truly are to the show.

• I'm expecting Erock to forever be a soldier to them, not to mention he has real radio connections that will help the show out.

• Sam already got a bunch of other things going on, but he would always help the boys if he can. Will have a chance to jump in so long as it doesn't sever the WWE connections.

• Roland probably won't be as loyal, since he has to maintain a bunch of celebrity connections for the company.

• Travis might jump in with whatever the boys do, only because the company probably won't know what to do with him.

• Denny is a company man. Unless he's fired for alleged workplace sexual harassment again with his mistletoe belt, no way he would go against the company.

• Troyquan (which I believe is still there) would be all in. We can finally hear from him again, as well as tell that story he told in YKWD, in the anniversary of when that particular story happened.

I hope I'm right, even though I'm probably not.

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Are Sam, Erock, Roland, Travis, Denny, etc

Fuck them!!! Does anyone really want these assholes on the air? Roland?? Really? Roland?

I never gave a shit about any of them.

Erock's going to be fine. Despite all the shit he takes on the show, he's been in the industry for a long time and has tons of connections.

Sam plays the corporate game and will probably continue to do his Friday show with Who-dat or maybe move the Shade45.

Visual based show? How many of you listen to the show but pay no attention? Do you realize how many listeners are truckers or are on the road? Are they going to pull into a gas station/rest stop to watch the show? Or how about those at work? They going to blatantly watch on employer time?

As for Sam and Roland, I'd rather have red hot pokers in my ear drums than the whine if their pre-pubescent voices. Edit: after thought.

Lets be honest.... it was already kinda over.

It was kinda over because of Sirius, they couldn't do nearly as much they used to do because of all the hoops they had to jump through.

The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

He's rolling

Animal House joke.

Is OP in his 60s?

You're not a Beatle.

Jokes on you, I'm actually Paul McCartney.

MISTUH HAAAAAAAAHGIS! WHA HAPPENED TO PAUL MCCAHTNEY?

Shut up, Faul McCartney.

google it

You're under the assumption that Opie is on his side, and I think you're wrong here. Ant will do a podcast, maybe with Jim on occasion, maybe not. No fucking way is Opie going with them though. I already think they don't like each other, and Opie has to be pissed at Ant for throwing a good thing away.

Opie and Anthony as a duo is done.

I don't know about that. Opie has been desperately trying to make a video "go viral" for like 6 years without much success. He has to know that without Ant, his value is kinda limited. And Ant knows that his LFTC was not nearly the fun, interesting, successful thing that O&A has been for so long.

This is a case where I think both guys know they are in a 1+1=3 kind of situation. Both are better off in the team than going solo. And they were on the edge of not wanting to renew with Sirius anyway. It's only like 2 months ahead of schedule if they were planning to leave at the end of this contract.

I love the 1+1=3 analogy because you're right about that.

I always took the contract talks as posturing going way back. I'm just not sure Opie isn't done with the whole thing. He made a bunch of money, hopefully saved a nice chunk of it, and is now ready to do the family thing full-time. I'd love to be wrong though.

Opie has said a bunch of times that he really would rather not live in this city with his family, but he just does it because of the short commute to his 6am job, and that makes sense. NYC is great if you're single and/or young, but in general it's a major hassle. He said sometimes he has to wait 45 minutes or more to get his car out of the garage. So, doing a show with Ant means he could move back to Long Island.

Then if they are both on Long Island doing a show, it means they could do an afternoon show without sacrificing their laid back lifestyle, and they could attract more comedians and other people to the show who don't want to wake up at 6am. The kind of content that made the show insane during the WNEW years, but they could add that video element they have always wanted. Ant has all the skills and know-how now to do that.

Makes sense, though there's a part of me that sees it just as likely that he moves down to the Philly area near his wife's family.

Not sure if you're familiar with the area, but IMO it sucks down there. And Opie seems to love Long Island. Anyway it's all complete speculation, I think give it a week and we'll know what the SXM plan is, and then when contract renewal time happens, which I think I read is October, who knows?

Not sure if you're familiar with the area, but IMO it sucks down there.

I actually live here. Different strokes, different folks. I don't know where her family lives, but I'm sure it's a nicer area.

Right. To each their own. I wouldn't want to live on Long Island or in the Philly area. :)

If you're talking about places like Bucks County or something, that's a lot different than the city though. Wouldn't be a bad place to raise kids.

Getting comedians and guests out to Ant's House won't be super easy. No subway stop at the compound.

True. But they could rent out some office space or something at the western end of LI.

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What do you mean throwing a good thing away though? I got the impression Opie was really fucking done with SiriusXM. I was expecting the end of the O&A show in October. Why would they renew their contracts? SiriusXM obviously didn't give a shit about the show, look at the situation with the studio. They weren't gonna spend money fixing up a studio for a show whose hosts they don't think are going to renew their contracts anyway.

What do you mean throwing a good thing away though?

The ability to make millions of dollars by sitting around bullshitting = the good thing. Anthony threw it away for all of them with the Twitter tirade.

I got the impression Opie was really fucking done with SiriusXM.

I've heard them cry wolf then extend their deals several times, so I never bought it. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Why would they renew their contracts?

Money.

They weren't gonna spend money fixing up a studio for a show whose hosts they don't think are going to renew their contracts anyway.

Haven't they already extended their deals since the studio nonsense started? I'm under the impression that this started with the Sirius-XM merger.

Money isn't everything, especially if you feel you have enough to comfortably retire on and don't like what you are doing to make that money anymore. Talk is talk, but both have said they are getting kind of tired of doing the show and they hate SiriusXM. Opie has said he has F U money, I doubt he cares that much, if he wanted to leave.

Like when Spanish King Napoleon beat Hitler, so shall Opie & Anthony beat the evil hordes of Howie Gremlins!

Or when General MacArthur invaded the Sudetenland and started the Civil War

Howie Gremlins?

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Well one main issue is that we have never had one fired and not the other one before. No one knows how that is going to play out. Also the dynamic of the show is just completely different now. I have no doubt both will go one to something, but whether its together or separate is what remains to be seen.

Divide and conquer. Even though I personally think that Opie and Ant are not friends, I think they respect the hell out of each other. Opie will stand in solidarity with Ant, even if he pretty much despises the guy.

This is what I've been thinking. Opie has been openly critical of Ant for awhile now and there's been some epic drama. Opie is still a sociopath, so he can deliver awesome cringe humor, but Ant has just been trying to pick fights for awhile, and you gotta string the troll bait along better. Also, Ant isn't interesting the last couple years, if they don't have a good comic on, I don't even listen anymore, except for clips when Ant is crying or whatever

You guys forget that Maria Menouououos's husband Keven Undergaro owns an internet media production company and told them on air he could easily set them up for a fairly cheap cost. They could easily get on the line with him and get a studio set up fairly quickly in Manhattan. They then could easily toss the audio up on either Riotcast or even Kevin Smith's Smodcast network. PodcastOne is also a pretty big collective of popular podcasts right now, so there are a ton of options.

Also, for those saying "rinky dink" in terms of money made on internet media, I'd like to remind you that a shitty youtuber named PewDiePie makes millions.

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Doesn't even matter. Would you bet your money that you could turn a profit using Anthony right now? He's toxic and no one will get into bed with him until this blows over, give it a day or two, let them find a new target to lynch.

People are more than capable of reading between the lines. Give me a break.

But there was always a place to step forward. Wnew was a huge step forward. Satellite was a new thing that they could step forward. They reached the top of it.

Are any of those guys making a living off podcasts? Burr is doing stand up and acting work. I don't think even Adam Carolla who is probably making the most money off podcasting relies on it as his sole source of money. Don't get me wrong I hope the boys can figure it out but I think they would be the first ones to do it and that just seems unlikely.

He has a show called "Catch a Contractor" too.

Yes, Satellite radio is dying, those sad sacks only have 25 million customers.

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You think SiriusXM is the most popular audio medium?

It's the only audio medium capable of paying them seven figure incomes.

That's not true at all.

What are some others?

Broadway.

I'd pay to see Long Island Boys.

The best situation would be a show like Artie Lange had. The visual element was spectacular and the radio/app was great too. They/he should look into DirecTV. They might be able to pull it off with their fan base, where Artie/Nick couldn't.

The thing is neither direct tv or any radio company out there are going to pick up the opie and anthony show because after all this media coverage the show became the racist hate black people show. Theres not a single spineless management suit out there that would take that risk.

Podcasting is their only option they dont have any other choice, and even that is limited to the few sponsors that will want to be associated with that

What about imus

imus apologized

I'm sorry I did that...

Yes, why not move from one winning ship of another?

I'm not sure what you mean. Sirius is a stable company and a viable place for radio professionals and DirecTV is also a thriving medium. You're comment is bullshit and so are you.

Really? It sounds like its a really shittily run company. The whole XM and Sirius radio issue where you have two brands of radios out there that aren't compatible with each other even though this is now supposed to be one company. Its almost as if the merger wasn't thought out fully or handled correctly...hmmmm. And since O&A is (apparently) gone and Stern is going to retire soon what do they have left? New cars? Not everyone is going to keep that service once the trial is up.

Sirius/XM has a stock value around $3 per share. Not sure if that's a "stable company" but Ido like listening.

Cancel your sub you shitlord

• was it over when 'fat *man' (neither roland or erock) was dropped over nagasaki? - yes

edit *fat man, not fat 'boy'

its not over till they mom's box it

Without the companies, they're about to explode.

Because now they won't have some corporation that can hold them back.

Probably going to be a new golden age.

THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GOOOOOOOO..... except podcasts.

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This is very true. Feelin' better. Can't wait for Monday.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg

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I don't think we'll ever hear O&A together again beyond a one off interview or goodbye special type deal. It sucks that the least funny/enjoyable aspect of the show (Ant's racial/political rants) are what got him fired. Ant's anger finally got the best of him.

Tsss! That last one's not true! It was the goddamn Japanese dogs! Tsss! Tsss!

The O&A show is gonna rise again!

They can finally do the cross country bus tour now.

its fucking over man, the second the media types in "OnA anthony race" into youtube its done.

Yup Michael Jordan retired from basketball, played baseball, and then comeback and won 3 more rings. Retired again. Went to play for the Wizards, and sucked. They might make a comeback in the form of podcasts but it'll be like Jordan on the Wizards.

So Anthony should play baseball? I agree!

I think he's suggesting Anthony move into wzzrdry.

Are you suggesting we raise a generation of superkids?

I'm sure Apollo Air Conditioning has a bar league softball team. They'd be happy to have Tony back.

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key work here... "them".

Opie/Jim/etc are still on contract. they aren't going anywhere soon.

Who's going to hire them?

And how much could they make doing a podcast . . . assuming Opie even wants to do a podcast; which a pretty tall assumption . . . that would compel them to actually do it. You know the vast majority of listeners aren't going to pay a nickel to listen to it when it will be instantly obtainable for nothing.

'The boys' know it's over. If only most of the fans did as well.

Like every other podcast they get sponsors

They like attention - that's why they're going to keep doing a show in some form. They probably won't make as much money, but after a few weeks, or months, they'll be back just because they want people to listen.

Back with what, a taped 2-3 hour weekly podcast?

Do you know how dead that's going to sound?

Overall it's a very shitty situation, but a 2-3 hour podcast is better than nothing at all.

For us, maybe, but not for them.

Theres plenty that would hire them for their fanbase. Fucking Yahoo Screens did it for Community. They could be the Howard Stern for shitheadpodcasts.com

Theres plenty that would hire them

I'll get on the phone with Don Black of Stomfront right away

I detest posts like this.

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No, it's very much over. SiriusXM does not give a fuck that a small handful of their subscribers are cancelling.

Podcasts mean shit. Everyone pretending this is a "good thing" for the guys is a stupid faggot.

Nothing will ever be as funny and entertaining as Opie, Anthony and Jim with interviews, segments, bits, sound effects, callers, et cetera.

It just won't be the same. Stop trying to look for a silver lining. This is every bit as bad as it looks.

You're just trying to come to terms with your cognitive dissonance that liberals like yourselves are totally to blame for this.

I'm so beyond happy that racist asshole got fired

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So edgy. And no amount of money would be worth the public humiliation he's going through. He's a sad angry man and money can't solve that

he's obviously going to get a show at FOX now.

So nobody is going to address the fact that the Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbour?? It's good to see your sticking up for O&A but come on Vos

It seems no one appreciates a good animal house reference in this time of crisis.

I'd forgotten how much Jimmy looks like Belushi.

Oh thank god, I thought you were retarded

Oh thank god, I thought you were retarded

He's rolling

It seems no one appreciates a good animal house reference in this time of crisis.

Animal House joke.

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The only way I would imagine they would attempt it would be if they think they have a viable podcast business model. Carolla is the greatest example of leaving radio with a strong audience and making a life in the podcast world, but I don't think anyone knows if he's making the same kind of money that he was.

I don't think it's entirely un-doable for them, but I guess it would come down to how strong their desire to continue on and rebuild from here is. I remember when they first came to XM...they knew they had to rebuild, but they were HOT off their WNEW career, and embarking on a new and exciting format. But that was 10 years ago this October. Do they have that same kind of drive? I guess we'll see.

I disagree with AnudderCast. Both of them said how bored they were during the 2 year hiatus from radio. I think they will still want to do something, even if it's for low amount of money (because they have plenty of it).

If fleshlight or Adam and Eve (dohhhhl) can pay just enough in advertising to cover the cost of making some kind of independent show, like Joe Rogan has, then it seems likely to me that they would do it. The one who would feel the pinch is Jimmy but that is why he has been getting himself involved on other things the past couple of years - tv, his own radio shows, and always he keeps doing standup - because he knew this gravy train was gonna end someday and he wasn't going to be able to keep collecting a paycheck from SiriusXM.

So, I think give it a few weeks or even a couple of months, and O&A will be doing something again, possibly without Jimmy though (depending on whether Jim can afford to do it, or needs to do more gigs and stuff to keep paying his own bills and just wouldn't be able to devote the time to a gig that isn't paying well).

Really? It sounds like its a really shittily run company. The whole XM and Sirius radio issue where you have two brands of radios out there that aren't compatible with each other even though this is now supposed to be one company. Its almost as if the merger wasn't thought out fully or handled correctly...hmmmm. And since O&A is (apparently) gone and Stern is going to retire soon what do they have left? New cars? Not everyone is going to keep that service once the trial is up.

Sirius/XM has a stock value around $3 per share. Not sure if that's a "stable company" but Ido like listening.

I'd forgotten how much Jimmy looks like Belushi.

I never gave a shit about any of them.

Are you suggesting we raise a generation of superkids?

He profits from them excelling, brainiac. His ticket sales a directly proportional to how good his team is. Fucking shit dude. Ant doesn't own anyone in there. Also before you come back with "his ratings effect his pay, so he needs them for a good show", he has shut down on more than one occasion when he didn't like someone, and those people don't usually come back, and they are a veritable rainbow of colors, including white. A lot of comics give O&A credit for how big they are, radio personalities can really help make or break a career. Ant knows this. So again: Why the fuck would he help out those who he "hates". I want a strong answer. You have 43 years of life experience on your side.