Che Guevara was a racist, mass murderer, and serial rapist, I wouldnt use this kind of symbolism. It's basically the same thing as making him look like Hitler, but like it's a good thing.
Whatever the case, he wasn't some ivory tower liberal hipster in Brooklyn majoring in Women's Studies. He was a shady dude that did a lot of brutal and morally questionable stuff.
The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.
I don't know why effeminate SJW types champion him when I'm 99% sure Che would hate them anyways. He was basically a Nationalist trying to free his people from international and pseudo-colonial control, which the USSR would often support if it fucked with the US / Western Europe.
I agree. He probably did do some horrible shit but it's not a black and white issue where he's either an anti-capitalist revolutionary demi-god, or likened to hitler (godwin's law anyone) except worse because he raped children and ate babies.
They sound equally as ridiculous. Just look at that guy labeling me all sorts of negative things because I'm not condemning Che as the worst person ever based on heresay and rumors
I'm pretty anti-communist, but I don't pull the Hitler card about him either. In the end he was just a dude who identified as a Communist because like I said, the USSR offered it to him as a means to an end of national independence.
Fidel Castro and Che had some pretty communist agendas, but I don't know how much of it was influenced by the only support Cuba had amidst global embargos and a pretty one sided war, and how much was an intrinsic part of their personal ideas and motivations for trying to fight against what they perceived to be exploitation from the rich Capitalist countries.
I wish I knew more about the Cuban revolution.
Because communism is something to not be anti?
Please enlighten me on how putting guns to people's necks and forcing them to do shit is so great and better for society. Fucking pussy. If your ideas are so great you shouldn't have to force people to go along with them.
Way to jump to conclusions. I never said I was pro-communism, just that those were rumors started by people who disagreed with his ideas and have no historical merit. And communism inherently has nothing to do with violence. Now relax and realize you're fuming at a computer you loser.
The ideology itself has nothing to do with violence. The article you linked just asserts what I've been saying so you clearly just googled for something to make yourself seem right without even reading it.
The implementation of any ideology is always met with resistance and support. The article you linked lists war, polticide, etc as violence under the communist parties, but like I said those aren't exclusive to communism and in fact are almost universal.
Taken from the article you linked
"Ideologies are systems of ideas, which cannot commit crimes independently. However, individuals, collectives and states that have defined themselves as communist have committed crimes in the name of communist ideology, or without naming communism as the direct source of motivation for their crimes."
go ahead and talk about htiler more without and distinctions between fascism and communism.
Okay enough of your Red Herring fallacies. Communism isn't contingent on violence or evil and that's why I said it's not "inherently evil" in my first reply to you. Whether or not you agree that we need to share to advance society is irrelevant.
Che Guevara wasn't hitler, he wasn't a god, and I'm not a communist supporter like you initially pegged me to be when I called you on attacking his character with nonsense claims to invalidate his cause and ideologies.
"Whether or not you agree that we need to share to advance society is irrelevant."
Sharing isn't done under the threat of violence. Taxes are not sharing. It is theft.
I didn't say Che was hitler. I used Hitler because of his image being so recognizable as Che's is, while both have committed atrocities. I could have said Ted Bundy and it'd be the same point. It just seems counter productive to combine a racist's image with Ant's. Ant isn't racist.
Also, every political idea is initially forced on some. It's the reason revolutions exist. It's what happened with the U.s., it's what's happening with the middle east, and it's not exclusive to communism. Che Guevara and Fidel Castro had immense support from the poor cuban population.
Fidel Castro and Che had some pretty communist agendas, but I don't know how much of it was influenced by the only support Cuba had amidst global embargos and a pretty one sided war, and how much was an intrinsic part of their personal ideas and motivations for trying to fight against what they perceived to be exploitation from the rich Capitalist countries.
I wish I knew more about the Cuban revolution.
37 comments
12 i_saw_nothing 2014-07-04
Wow, Ant looks really good there for a change.
13 FJaxJones 2014-07-04
He's a rather handsome man with long, flowing hair and sans acne scarring.
10 Alienmonkey 2014-07-04
Cumia is the pride of the Corsican people.
9 elitemrp 2014-07-04
I was thinking of something to print out and post everywhere. This will do. Thanks!
2 [deleted] 2014-07-04
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1 elitemrp 2014-07-04
I forgive you.
-2 jfjjfjff 2014-07-04
Maybe make a poster and paste it around expressing that forgiveness
6 ellasmitherson 2014-07-04
This is a GREAT pic. HAHA
6 HeyBuddays 2014-07-04
I like how a funny photo turned into some unfunny faggot discussion on the merits of communism. Good job, you fucking retards.
7 [deleted] 2014-07-04
Weird. Some guy makes a mash up of Anthony and teh guy from Rage Against the Machine and everyone freaks!
4 ratbastardx 2014-07-04
Just shows why Ant got in this situation. Americans take everything way too seriously.
5 UncPa57yrzyng 2014-07-04
Fuck em right in the pussy.
4 BottleOfAon 2014-07-04
Sidebar photo?
1 Alienmonkey 2014-07-04
VIVIA LA CUMIA!!!
2 ixcuincle 2014-07-04
A true martyr. Farewell to Ant
2 Fat_Head_Carl 2014-07-04
OK, where do I order my shirt?
2 [deleted] 2014-07-04
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1 StupidWins 2014-07-04
Who is the original person in that illustration? Che somebody?
9 HeyBuddays 2014-07-04
kurt kobain
4 LouisCGhey 2014-07-04
Ted Nugent
1 IrateBarnacle 2014-07-04
No, the other Ted
5 RahnBayngtin 2014-07-04
Michael Che
4 Ojisan1 2014-07-04
A guy who made a lot of people lose their hats.
1 jasgl 2014-07-04
Such a shame..
-8 Adolf_Hipler 2014-07-04
Che Guevara was a racist, mass murderer, and serial rapist, I wouldnt use this kind of symbolism. It's basically the same thing as making him look like Hitler, but like it's a good thing.
-8 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
All slander by anti-communists.
8 Fidena 2014-07-04
Whatever the case, he wasn't some ivory tower liberal hipster in Brooklyn majoring in Women's Studies. He was a shady dude that did a lot of brutal and morally questionable stuff.
I don't know why effeminate SJW types champion him when I'm 99% sure Che would hate them anyways. He was basically a Nationalist trying to free his people from international and pseudo-colonial control, which the USSR would often support if it fucked with the US / Western Europe.
0 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
I agree. He probably did do some horrible shit but it's not a black and white issue where he's either an anti-capitalist revolutionary demi-god, or likened to hitler (godwin's law anyone) except worse because he raped children and ate babies. They sound equally as ridiculous. Just look at that guy labeling me all sorts of negative things because I'm not condemning Che as the worst person ever based on heresay and rumors
0 Fidena 2014-07-04
I'm pretty anti-communist, but I don't pull the Hitler card about him either. In the end he was just a dude who identified as a Communist because like I said, the USSR offered it to him as a means to an end of national independence.
1 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
Fidel Castro and Che had some pretty communist agendas, but I don't know how much of it was influenced by the only support Cuba had amidst global embargos and a pretty one sided war, and how much was an intrinsic part of their personal ideas and motivations for trying to fight against what they perceived to be exploitation from the rich Capitalist countries. I wish I knew more about the Cuban revolution.
0 Adolf_Hipler 2014-07-04
Because communism is something to not be anti? Please enlighten me on how putting guns to people's necks and forcing them to do shit is so great and better for society. Fucking pussy. If your ideas are so great you shouldn't have to force people to go along with them.
0 [deleted] 2014-07-04
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0 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
Way to jump to conclusions. I never said I was pro-communism, just that those were rumors started by people who disagreed with his ideas and have no historical merit. And communism inherently has nothing to do with violence. Now relax and realize you're fuming at a computer you loser.
-2 Adolf_Hipler 2014-07-04
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax
Nothing to do with violence?
1 pzaaa 2014-07-04
USSR was state capitalist.
0 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
The ideology itself has nothing to do with violence. The article you linked just asserts what I've been saying so you clearly just googled for something to make yourself seem right without even reading it. The implementation of any ideology is always met with resistance and support. The article you linked lists war, polticide, etc as violence under the communist parties, but like I said those aren't exclusive to communism and in fact are almost universal. Taken from the article you linked "Ideologies are systems of ideas, which cannot commit crimes independently. However, individuals, collectives and states that have defined themselves as communist have committed crimes in the name of communist ideology, or without naming communism as the direct source of motivation for their crimes." go ahead and talk about htiler more without and distinctions between fascism and communism.
-4 Adolf_Hipler 2014-07-04
Taxation is in the communist manifesto.
Taxation is theft. If people refuse to be locked in a rape cage after refusing to give up money they earned; they will be killed.
If the only options I gave a woman after asking "want to have sex?" Were she says yes or I kill her thats rape.
Communism is economic rape.
2 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
Okay enough of your Red Herring fallacies. Communism isn't contingent on violence or evil and that's why I said it's not "inherently evil" in my first reply to you. Whether or not you agree that we need to share to advance society is irrelevant. Che Guevara wasn't hitler, he wasn't a god, and I'm not a communist supporter like you initially pegged me to be when I called you on attacking his character with nonsense claims to invalidate his cause and ideologies.
Edited phrasing*
-2 Adolf_Hipler 2014-07-04
"Whether or not you agree that we need to share to advance society is irrelevant." Sharing isn't done under the threat of violence. Taxes are not sharing. It is theft.
I didn't say Che was hitler. I used Hitler because of his image being so recognizable as Che's is, while both have committed atrocities. I could have said Ted Bundy and it'd be the same point. It just seems counter productive to combine a racist's image with Ant's. Ant isn't racist.
3 pzaaa 2014-07-04
Communism isn't about redistribution of wealth, it's about the workers controlling the means of production.
2 pzaaa 2014-07-04
You won't understand the communist manifesto if you read only that and I suspect you haven't read it. Read Das Kapital.
0 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2014-07-04
Required reading: http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html
-1 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
Also, every political idea is initially forced on some. It's the reason revolutions exist. It's what happened with the U.s., it's what's happening with the middle east, and it's not exclusive to communism. Che Guevara and Fidel Castro had immense support from the poor cuban population.
1 Skylinerr 2014-07-04
Fidel Castro and Che had some pretty communist agendas, but I don't know how much of it was influenced by the only support Cuba had amidst global embargos and a pretty one sided war, and how much was an intrinsic part of their personal ideas and motivations for trying to fight against what they perceived to be exploitation from the rich Capitalist countries. I wish I knew more about the Cuban revolution.