Is Jimmy's negativity hurting the show?

34  2014-06-18 by [deleted]

Looking back, the recent shows without Jimmy have been a hoot. Pretty upbeat, usually good guests to make up for his absence. O&A joke around a lot more.

Lately Jimmy just seems too bitter and negative about everything, and it brings down the mood of the show. Opie or Anthony will get on a subject or bit, and it will automatically be driven into the ground by Jimmy hating it, then continuing to drive down the mood with his bank of go-to angry key terms such as "drivel", "reprehensible", "baby boy", etc. It's been weeks since we've got a decent Chip, Uncle Paul, or Edgar impression, if any.

Why has little jimmy been so bitter lately?

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Sadly, Jimmy has gotten stale for a while now. It's annoying hearing his same three talking points about a topic. The most ENRAGING of these is him calling people self important or self obsessed when this guy whines like a child when a celebrity denies a photo with him because they were a dick about it. Ewwwwwwwwwwww. Awwwww baby boy throw a fit because he didn't get his picture with Derek Jeter? Awwww baby boy. Stop it.

Did you really have to use an example from 8 years ago?

As if his celebrity obsession has changed? Shut it.

When was the last time he bitched about not getting a picture with a celebrity? That's my point. You people conflate years of material to try to make points about what the show is like today. I don't think Jimmy has bitched about a celebrity photo in years. So, why would you talk about how enraging it is when it doesn't even happen anymore? It's already happened. It's not like you're some disgruntled longtime listener bitching about what the show has become. You people bitch about stuff that happened before you even started listening.

in TDSM's defense, the bit about Jeter not signing his photo did just play in "best of" within the past week. I heard it and it seemed like he started off pissed but saw how much it was making the other guys laugh, that he just ran with it for a while.

When was the last time he bitched about not getting a picture with a celebrity?

When Metallica was in the building. That was this year i think.

I remember that. That was 8 months ago. Still, it's not an everyday thing. It's such a spurious complaint about Jimmy and the show.

Still, it happened this year, so you're still wrong & you're still a Jimmy ballwasher.

Carry on.

Do you have a little binder where you make all these notes

They weren't saying that it happens every day and is annoying, they were pointing out how much of a hypocritical douche he is.

He did complain about Metallica within the past year or so. Although his beef wasn't with the band, but rather the powers that be at Sirius who didn't seem interested in helping him get the pic.

It aired recently. May not have realized it wasn't new.

It's been weeks since we've got a decent Chip, Uncle Paul, or Edgar impression, if any.

This and witty banter is all he should do. His political/social/behavioral observations and commentary are irritatingly naive. Also hypocritical and just plain stupid at times. I like Jim to a larger extent, but his complexes and weakness make him difficult to listen at times.

I said this yesterday, and Ill repeat; a dan soder-type personality should be the 3rd seat. But we know that wont happen, anthony would be too worried he would throw himself off a bridge...or sumptin'

He's trying way too hard to be George Carlin with his "observations", even stealing Carlin's timing and delivery.

Problem is, Carlin was a people watcher and loved to play off of people's neuroses, Jim is a victim of his neuroses, and only sees himself in other people.

It's going to end badly. He's never going to achieve the love, adoration and respect that Carlin got, and they're going to find Jimmy swinging from a rope in his apartment on his 50th birthday.

It really is a spot on analogy of Jim and his carlin-esque mentality. He cannot pull it off.

Once you see it, it's hard not to see it. He's being eaten away inside with jealousy over Louis and Colin's and Bill's success, and he's trying desperately to catch up.

so you're saying if this Vice show doesn't pan out for lil jimmy, we should put him on suicide watch? i mean, he always has Vos to look at to cheer himself up, but at least Vos has kids and a wife who love him so i dont know.

And people wonder why Jimmy is so negative. Fuck. His life is worse than mine and my life is a goddamn joke.

I think you're a douche, but that was funny!

Dude, the Vice show is some online talk show. It's not going to be on a network or something.

maybe not. vice does get shit on HBO and are a hot commodity right now. too bad lil jimmy isnt though.

Cosby?

Colin and Bill are successes now? And Louis is burning out quickly; he's on his 14th minute of fame. I'll concede that Jimmy adds nothing to the recent shows...its like he's not even trying to be funny anymore. But I still have hope for the fucker because when Jimmy's ON he fucking kills it. He's just gotta find that rhythm...

Colin has had two shows on Broadway that have been extremely successful. Bill Burr is a fast rising star, especially after his Break Bad part, which he said might be on the spin off they're doing for the Saul character. He's been doing bigger and bigger parts in movies, too. Louis may be burning out on his show, but HE'S HAD A HIT SHOW FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

No, they're not successes, at all. Derp.

Break Bad? Why not like Breakin Wind or sumpin?..

Fawkin word hyumah!!

It's also worth mentioning that Louie's show might be 'burning out' for the O&A crowd, but the show's critical (and mass audience) reception has been consistently strong.

A few people here detest Louie's transition into an "Arteur" more interested in expressing his artistic vision than being funny, but it's generally being celebrated by his show's audience.

I feel like Louie's made it to that pantheon where his success has a sense of permanence and any future projects will be viewed in a positive light- regardless of its substance

Louis is now at the point where he can make his movies that he made for years before and have them aired on TV. But apparently he should be making more lucky louis episodes?

Louis is burning out quickly

Wrong.

What is your interpretation of success?

For a stand-up comedian? Getting a tv show and keeping it.

to wit: Seinfeld. A show about nothing.

Oh for sure. Acting alongside Al Pacino and Christopher Walken has nothing on a wacky sitcom.

With that logic, Whitney Cummings is more successful than Burr.

I don't know what movie you're tlaking about with Burr in it so I can't speak on that. But wasn't Whitney Cummings' show cancelled pretty quickly? I dunno, I saw 5 minutes of it a while ago and it was fucking garbage. But I'll stand by my point; if that drivel is still on TV, then yes--she's successful. Not saying Burr isn't because I don't know what you're referencing.

Bill Burr was in a fucking Sandra Bullock movie. He was in Date Night and Breaking Bad, he was in Stand Up Guys with Pacino, Walken and Alan Arkin. Louis was in American Hustle with fucking Christian Bale and Bradley Cooper. He was in the last Woody Allen movie.

What does an actor have to do to be considered a success to you?

Where is their comic book movie success?

You have Google, I'm sure a movie featuring Pacino, Walken, & Alan Arkin is easy to find.

"if that drivel is still on TV, then yes--she's successful"

So, you have to be a comedian with a television show that is still on-air to be considered successful? Seinfeld, Roseanne, and all those others are no longer successful because they aren't still making new episodes....

Having a TV show means dick in regards to being a successful comic. Your argument is flawed

I never said you had to have a current tv show to be successful. Seinfeld and Roseanne are successful just because they had long standing tv shows. But yes, I found Stand Up Guys if that's what you're referring to. Apparently the movie sucked and no one saw it (34% on RT); I personally have never even heard of it. But I watched the trailer and neither Burr or Louis is even in the trailer. They're minor characters in a shit movie that did nothing. Tell me again how they're successes? And sure, Louis has his show...but the ratings are pretty shitty and, from what I've seen, it seems pretty boring, but that's just my personal opinion. All i'm saying is, he's on his way out, no matter how much reddit thinks otherwise.

Probably the best insight into anything to do with this show ever posted

We all know Jimmy will eventually spiral out of control and kill himself, but personally, I'll be disappointed if it doesn't in some way involve the proverbial shotgun of his many, MANY suicide jokes.

This comment does not have enough MANY's.

MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY suicide jokes. We get it Jim, you hope he takes his hat off with a shotgun.

DOUBLE MANY'S COCKSUCKA

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This is pretty accurate. Jim please don't read this!

What's an example of Jimmy stealing Carlin's timing and delivery? Unless they have a puppet, do impressions, or have a "persona", pretty much any popular comedian uses observational humor.

Monday's show after the airline stories when they were talking about the middle east.

I just listened (starts at about 18:13 and lasts eight minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjsMKYzDyY). That doesn't resemble Carlin at all. This sub is full of morons.

Find your own example, if you don't see it or agree, fine, but do your own fucking homework.

Well, I listened to today's show. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not one example?

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I think he's responsible for ruining the apology bit. Yesterday was hilarious with Dan Soder. All 3 were riffing and cracking jokes and even Opie killed it a few times. When they do the apology bit with Jim all they do is bitch and moan while complaining and reiterating the same shit over, and over again.

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Gotta credit yesterday's success to Soder more than a lack of Jimmy in the studio. Notice how they didn't even really focus on how bitching about how pathetic any of the apologies were -- because Soder just took over and made the show funny. Jimmy feeds a lot off the energy of everyone else in the studio. If it's just Opie bitching non-stop, then Jimmy will sit there and bitch too. If people are riffing back and forth (and Opie shuts the fuck up) then Jimmy can kill it too.

True, but Jimmy does bring his own negativity to the show, he walks in completely pissed a lot of times, or gets pissed during the show, etc. As much as they rail on how hack other radio show hosts are (which I agree with) you don't have to bring EVERYTHING to the microphones and have a 2 hour downer break in a comedy show. Soder was and has been great, everyone was having a blast and it showed. I'm sure Jimmy would have riffed right along with them just fine, but as much as I love all three of the hosts in at once, it seems like odds are at least one person is pissed and / or negative about something several times per week, for long stretches.

Have dan soder sit through another 18 apology bits like jimmy has, and see if he still stays fresh and sharp.

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Agreed. Reminded me of how good the show could be with fresh blood.

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That's the end... Ant takes Jimmy to the range to relieve stress, Jimmy ends up buying a gun and then, when the VICE show inevitably flops due to Jimmy's hideous physical appearance and tranny jokes, he'll blow his brains out and everyone will cry and play Jimmy stuff all week.

Really? Louis Black has made a life for himself as the "everyman/angryman"

Holla if you're sitting on more cash than Louis Black. Otherwise STFU

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You need to work on your reading comprehension skills, champ.

Ant is a drunk right winger/child fucker, but he's a genuinely funny guy. Jimmy is funny too, but frankly he's far less genuine than Anthony.

And please cite where I mentioned Big A and scrotums.

What utter dreck!!!

Why? Because he is mentally fucked up to the point of silliness. He is awful in every way when he isn't being funny.

Jimmy has always been like this. Did you know that CBS management had suggested removing Jim from the show, and only having him on the last hour at XM? They felt that his anger and negativity alienated a lot of listeners in a morning drive slot.

E-Lo thought this too well before the move to FM. He wanted Burr or Patrice to replace Jimmy a few times a week.

Kind of related, but former WNEW producer Rick Delgado gave in interview in '08 and said that he thought O&A had never gotten back to the same level of popularity that they had at WNEW, because Jimmy as a 3rd mic wasn't a good fit. He said something like Jimmy is hilarious, but he ruins the show and makes it so Ant can't do extended impressions.

I absolutely agree with that, he makes me want to not listen to the show and he's the sole reason I have to use headphones at work because I don't know when he's going to rattle off curse words to seem edgy.

That's the main reason I don't listen to the Joe Rogan podcast as much as I used to. Dude can't go fifteen seconds without a string of expletives. The people who are around me when I'm working will tolerate an occasional F-Bomb, but two hundred an hour isn't acceptable.

Yeah, he's the sole member of the staff who does that. Good call.

opie and anthony don't curse just because they can - and they are incredibly capable of doing radio without cursing, the cursing is way more frequent when jim is in studio - to the point it's excessive and child like.

/listener since day 1 of wnew

Let's not be silly, it's not like he's Bob Kelly or something.

Aside from Opie being terrible at reading, nothing makes me hit that fast-forward button like a Jim rant on almost anything since the Zimmerman debates he had with Ant.

"If you have a gun and you get your ass kicked you're a dumb muthafucker. He should have pulled it out and pointed it at him."

Take a nap, Jim. Adults are talking.

Yea, Jimmy is a terrible debater. I cringe when he makes arguments like that. Also, when he gets put in a corner he will say stuff like "you're just trying to win the argument." Well, no shit Jim.

yeah but he's a great MASStabater asumpthin tssss

Just stop.

According to Jim Norten people who disagree with him have fat wives that are fucking their best friends so that oughta pretty much shut us up.

I guess.

YES! Dan Soder for 3rd mic!

Jim Norton is at best an X-Rated morning zoo character, he's fucking worthless. AHHH THE SELF IMPORTANT BABY BOYEEEEEE MY OPINIONS MATTTTTTTER FUCK EM!!!! WAHHHHH.

He picked up some slack when the b-b-b-b-b-b-boys were running on steam.

His negativity is greatly outweighed by his bi-daily R Budd Dwyer references.

They hate everything (yes ironic considering Candy Kid Opie's derision of "haters"). I think Jim is a moron when it comes to political/social/economic issues. He rarely understands the players or issues involved. We tried "not our business" as a foreign policy for 160 years. It doesn't work. You have to take each problem on a case by case basis

When you're a big reason for the conflict and see yourself as a superpower, then you have to get your hands dirty sometimes

Jimmy's always been somewhat politically naive outside of issues like free-speech, but he would get challenged by Anthony whose biased but knowledgeable. Have an Opie that doesn't give a fuck about politics and no more Patrice and there you go: Jimmy on a soapbox.

Jimmy's negativity used to work, but they just don't have the energy to challenge each other anymore, which means his anger doesn't lead to anything. They've been beaten down by a truly shitty company that, despite the FCC's claims to the contrary (money talks), have absolutely no real competition. So what you have is a room full of guys that have been driven to frustration by a business model designed to maintain, not grow.

That said, dullards still misconstrue his hatred of hypocrisy for support of politically correct neo-liberalism (Redskins, etc.), which would frustrate even the most informed.

dullards still misconstrue his hatred of hypocrisy for support of politically correct neo-liberalism

Because only a true dummy would fail to recognize the defeatist post-hoc reasoning of his illogical argument.

He isn't debating a Harvard Law professor, he's having a conversation with his friends in front of a radio audience.

And are people still quoting logical fallacy? I thought that was an Internet trend started by college students.

So he only uses stupid reasoning on the radio? That might work if it was in a joking context but not in his 'serious" argument about the redskins. I didn't know logic was an internet trend, just like may-mays.

I just don't understand how he always knows more about the person being discussed, than the person knows about themselves. The smallest meaningless details lead into him somehow knowing the step by step thought process of the person.

It is so obvious that even though he's succeeded more than 9999 comics do, he sees the absolute peak of comedic success, that one comedian out of 10,000 like Louis CK or Ricky Gervais, and he resents it.

"You really are a resentful creep!"-Colin Quinn

Also, Bob Kelly has had more success on TV than Jimmy.

I've noticed this too. Yesterdays show with Dan Soder was awesome and upbeat.

Yeah, that was time capsule shit right there, and I don't think it would have been as funny if Jimmy was there.

He'd have mucked up the works somehow.

Sometimes his tirades are pretty hilarious, but other times I feel like they should find him professional help. He seems really down about himself, even more than usual and not in a comedic kind of way...

I just don't want anything to happen to little Yimmy.

How did you think his tale would end? He'd get a hugely successful TV show that brought him the mainstream success and adulation he so intensely craves? That he'd settle down and find a nice girl to spend his life with; a girl who didn't mind him inviting a pre-op transexual prostitute over to forcibly eject fecal matter all over his chest and neck? A girl who finds pedophilia jokes adorable? And he'd have a whole mess of blinky, baldheaded kids and retire and sip iced tea on a porch somewhere in the south every evening? He's gonna kill himself in the most pussy way possible, which will probably end up in taking lots of pills, vomitting them up, and being in the hospital a few days. Then the boys will forever treat him with kid gloves from then on like they do with Roland. Then he'll finally succeed and we'll hear Jimmy tributes all week while Colin and Vos tell stories of Jim's angry times.

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this fucking weight loss that has gone too far. Pretty soon we'll see him on some checkout till tabloid where he's at the beach with ribs showing.

AIDS is a pisser.

Well shit that was quite the paragraph.

He seems to be going a bit overboard with the weight loss though. Beating himself up over eating a single cookie. I wonder how low his calorie intake is.

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Somewhat agree but your right I miss Chippa, and the other characters. Ted Shekler is basically RIP

I think he killed of Ted and Edgar bits for the most part because he said they were really hurting his throat, and he needs a strong, clear voice for both of his jobs (stand up and radio)

Totally understandable. Anytime I try to do Ted Sheckler in front of my friends my throat hurts within a minute.

Serious question - would the show be better right now if, in 2005, they decided to replace Jimmy with Patrice or Burr?

There might be some extended periods of silence if Patrice had been chosen.

I mean, it works for Fez...

Burr would be less famous than he is now if he attached himself to the show and he would clash too much with Anthony's racism to make it work.

doubtful. patrice and bill were/are a fucking goldmine of entertainment any time they were on the show, but lacked the silliness that jimmy has that was responsible for most of my favorite things from the show (animal rants, his characters, "WE HEARD YOU," sweater boy cutie, etc.)

I love Bill in small doses, but would probably want to punch him in the face with his conspiracy theories--"The banks, dude! Forcing us to be slaaves to the system, dude!"

I know Patrice was also into conspiracy theories, but idk, him being black made it okay.

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Jimmy hit his peak with Cregg Schinkle.

When Jimmy is out, it seems like Opie isn't as annoying

When he's being funny, he's great. When he's being serious and angry, he pretty much makes me want to kill myself. It's like a steel bristled brush on raw nerves at this point. Enough. Be funny, that's your job, or at least it should be.

this, I can't take serious jimmy at all, for someone who wasted his entire life fucking trannies and being an absolute pervert in every way imaginable (god bless him) I just for some odd reason cannot take his ideas and thoughts as anything but rambling

Every time a Paris Hilton topic comes up you know you're about to hear the word "vapid". His rage is predictable.

Jimmy is one of the funniest guys I've ever heard on the radio when it comes to improv comedy but the second that stops and he tries to talk seriously about any topic he turns into one of the most childish, ignorant, dumb and smug babies on the planet. The way he yells over callers when they prove his dumb theories or logic wrong is pathetic and every single time he gets pinned in a corner he uses the same dumb quote that makes me want to roundhouse him in that jawless face "Sir you're panicking " . I'd love to see a real person come into the studio and debate (call out/knock off that gigantic high horse) Jimmy like Florentine/Burr and even Piers Morgan did with Ant on Gun Control&Racism. What I wouldn't give to hear Stanton Friedman, Bill Birnes, Graham Hancock, Steven Greer etc. on the show so they can just pick apart and annihilate Jimmy's flat out retarded stance on most fringe subjects. Hell I'd even settle for Joe Rogan going at it with Jimmy because at least Joe has an open mind and doesn't believe just because he has a microphone in front of his face that means he knows more than the guest or caller.

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Opie likes it.

Maybe stress about his new show?

This is no place for rational thinking. Leave now.

I just miss Ted.

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Douche chills

So... Who's breaking this thread to little jimmy like a divorce? Needs to be said. Kind of funny it's kinda been Jim but copies been taking the brunt of it lately

jim makes me chuckle every day, like today when that gay homosexual called in and said he liked anthony's little mustache and anthony said he liked another mans little mustache, the jim laugh made me laugh even more. jim is funny and i personally only wish him the best, godspeed.

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Lately? He's made a career out of it dummy.

It's the combination of serious and angry that's bad. Funny, angry Jimmy can be good.

Exactly. And Norton is much less angry now than he used to be. Who are these retards on here?

You and FleepFloopFarp

Any of you see his line in the final episode of Louie.

"why don't you two get a room already". It was a total car crash moment. I loved it.

if jimmy's negativity as of late has hurt the show, what about the past 7 years of Anthony's negativity. just a barrel o' fun?

i'm not bothered by jimmy's opinions or bitterness in the least, but that might be because i think that the show lately has been discussing news topics that i really don't care about, nor do i give a shit about opinions on, either.

talk of replacing him as 3rd mic is a little fucking extreme, though. he is magical, and i guarantee anyone who would be for that would start crying to have him back after 6 months. dan soder is great and all but i guarantee he doesn't have the comedic mind to do a 10 minute riff about why bears stink or to create a character whose schtick is being the proprietor of several failed business ventures.

Have you called in to contribute?

I'm waiting for a check from my last appearance.

If you haven't noticed, the show is gallows humor.

Answer: no. He's a dark humor comedian. The show is a bunch of dark humor. What's your reference point for a shift? I never knew of the show during the "WNEW" days, so I guess that's what you're comparing?

Is....is that who we're against now? We haven't convinced Roland to off him self yet. FOCUS PEOPLE

Jimmy's bitter and resentful, but I would be too when there are other comedians with so much less talent and experience getting TV and movie deals. I empathize with him.

I empathize with him.

You, too, have been passed up for TV and movie deals?

He's fine, just like the rest of the show. Stop listening, and throw yourself at a train.

No.

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So is the criticism never going to have any effect or is it hurting the show? You fanboys can't have it both ways.

What a bunch of gossipy old women you all are.

We talk about you when you leave the room... You're getting fat.

Daily bitch and moan thread

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Justify it how you will, just another daily piss and moan thread from the manchildren than use the show as a life crutch

So you thought you would post and let us all know that you don't like reading bitch and moan threads?
Thanks that was really thoughtful of you.

Says the sad fuck who comes to ARGUE with the people he hates on a daily basis. Shut up and go away fucker.

I never said you had to have a current tv show to be successful. Seinfeld and Roseanne are successful just because they had long standing tv shows. But yes, I found Stand Up Guys if that's what you're referring to. Apparently the movie sucked and no one saw it (34% on RT); I personally have never even heard of it. But I watched the trailer and neither Burr or Louis is even in the trailer. They're minor characters in a shit movie that did nothing. Tell me again how they're successes? And sure, Louis has his show...but the ratings are pretty shitty and, from what I've seen, it seems pretty boring, but that's just my personal opinion. All i'm saying is, he's on his way out, no matter how much reddit thinks otherwise.