Moving the Show to Afternoons

0  2014-06-16 by [deleted]

As far as I know, Opie is ALL IN for moving the show to start in the afternoon, and this is something I agree with. It would give them more energy on air, and it would mean their personal lives, or in Jim's case stand up career isn't affected by having to go to bed so early.

Also, given how badly the fans have reacted to the poor shows lately, would it really be so awul just to TRY moving the show to afternoons, and see how people react to it? If people think the show drops in quality, or are affected by the time changes they could easily change it back.

Finally, I don't really understand why Jim & Ant are even against this idea, can anyone explain?

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I think Ant likes the schedule because he gets off of work at 10:30, which leaves him a good 12 hours a day to drink. Can't blame him.

And the traffic situation. Leaving LI at 5am means maybe a 30-40 min commute and same thing for leaving Manhattan at 1030am. Move the show to 3pm and that means Mr C is leaving LI at 1pm to get to the studio, hopefully, on time and then leaving the studio at 7pm to be home by 9pm if not later.

Edit: Added AM and PM

The only benefit I can see to the show moving to afternoons is that Lady Di will be too fucking drunk to call the show anymore...

I know Anthony likes it because 6ish A.M. traditionally has been the spot that the top radio shows have. It also has the highest number of people listening at once. I think he's mostly just set in his ways, is comfortable with his schedule, and any change in schedule would mean driving either to or from work in traffic for him. I don't think there's any chance of it happening.

When you say top radio shows, you mean Howard Stern right? What other TOP radio shows are there? I hope he doesn't actually want the early start because that's what time Howard's show is on, ugh. The high ratings thing would make sense for a show that has a very small fan base, but I think there are enough O & A listeners now that will listen to them whatever time of day they are on (as long as it's enjoyable).

When I say "top" I mean the best show that that individual radio station has. The show that brings in the most listeners goes in the time slot that has the most listeners, because the most people will hear the ads, and that generates the most money. Any other time slot = less listeners. That 1 or 2 hour(s) that everyone is commuting to work has value that no other time of the day can match.

You underestimate the number of casual listeners who only listen in the mornings during work and driving to work. While a lot of hardcore fans and international fans listen via downloads/youtube/podcast I would say just as many listen only in the car on the way to work or during the mornings when working and spend actual time during the day doing something more entertaining than listening to Opie and Anthony.

Solution: Play yesterday's show during the 6:30 - 10:30 time slot, and then do a new show from 11-3.

You are a genius. Must be all that good Mike Patton work as opposed to his mediocre work.

Such as?

Him getting embarrassed live with Rahzel, and that god awful General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners. Basically whenever he tries anything remotely hip hop. I have been listening to him since I was 13. I was his biggest fan boy, and to an extent I am still a dick riding fanboy, but those two projects hurt me like a faggot.

Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, the solo albums, Peeping Tom, Mondo Cane, film soundtracks and more but yet because of two random incidents you think he's mediocre? I don't know what you're talking about with either of those things, I've never heard him embarrassed or sound awful. What was the rahzel thing?

Oh yeah, Peeping Tom was lame. I never said he was mediocre, but he has done SOME mediocre work. Someone as prolific as him can't hit all home runs. Frank Zappa has a huge discography, and it's only 80 percent good. John Zorn is awesome, but he has some stinkers. The Rahzel thing was some live shows he did during the filming of Firecracker. Rahzel is a damn good beat boxer, Mike Patton is a fantastic vocalist, but not a great beat boxer. Rahzel simply outclassed him in every aspect and it didn't help Patton looked awkward with bleached blonde hair and his hip hop gear on. It just wasn't a good position for him, but it was only live shows.

Since you didn't bring up Mr. Bungle I'm assuming you liked that band. If you can get into Bungle then you can get into Peeping Tom, it takes a few listens but I think the album is pretty decent. Sucker & Five Seconds are GREAT songs especially.

On the album, Patton is just singing on Mojo, whilst Rahzel is doing the beat boxing. Probably wasn't the best idea for him to beat box on the live shows, that doesn't sound great. Still doesn't take away from the fact that Patton is an amazing singer though.

Mr. Bungle is one of my favorite bands. I love everything related to it almost. Dieselhed, Secret Chiefs 3, Trevor Dunn's Trio-Convulsant, all great. Trust me, I know everything related to Mr. Bungle/FNM. Peeping Tom was the drizzling shits. Patton is an amazing singer. One of the best ever. That said I do think his "genius" is a bit overrated in regards to him as an individual. Mr. Bungle wasn't majority Patton lead. Neither was Faith No More. Fantomas is the best project he was 100% in charge of.

Agreed on Mr. Bungle, they are my my favourite band to listen to. And although Patton didn't have much contribution to Angel Dust or The Real Thing, the last 2 FNM Albums were VERY driven by him, and the California Album by Bungle was too. He can be a bit too experimental without any reason at times, but his talent is undeniable.

California was very much Spruance and Dunn production/writing wise. Disco Volante was a lot more even when it came to song writing. Angel Dust also featured quiet a lot of Patton's involvement which lead to Jim fucking off. Reading about how California was made and how much it cost is insane, but Trey Spruance is a genuine psychopath.

Are you sure about that on California? It's such a change from the first 2 albums and seems like the kind of more-accessible kind of music Patton would of wanted to make. Yeah, I know Jim left because he felt Patton was changing the band's musical style and persona but I thought that was after Angel Dust. And yeah, Trey is a fucking insane psychopath but that's why I love him. He once said if he wasn't a musician he would be a serial killer.

If you have heard Secret Chiefs 3, and then listen to California it seems more clear. I know for a fact Trevor Dunn wrote some of the best Bungle songs on Disco and California. Patton I think usually got co-writer status on songs with only a handful of exceptions regarding Bungle. Angel Dust was for the most part a good collab between all members except Jim. Jim wrote Jizzlobber by himself and I think Patton wrote Malpractice by himself, but was mostly involved in lyrics. There is a great behind the scenes doc of Angel Dust with interviews with all the members. It's long as hell, but insightful.

Okay, I KNOW that Patton wrote the whole of The Bends, both musically and lyrically because other band members have said that too. That must be one of the only ones I guess. And yeah, I tried to watch that fucking 4 Hour Angel Dust documentary but got bored as shit. It wasn't insightful, there were parts where Mike just ate a sandwich.

I don't know if Patton wrote all of the bends as it was inspired by Spruance when he heard Joe Meek's I Hear a New World. I would imagine it was a collaborative piece. I think Patton wrote and played bass on the hidden track and co wrote many pieces.

Also Allmusic and actual album liner notes usually give individual credits per song as to who wrote the music and lyrics. I know the credits are in the Disco Volante booklet i'm looking at.

It's hard to ever get a definitive answer on who did what because they're all notorious for either trolling or making up stories in answer to some questions. The Secret Song is a great example - there's so many different stories of what actually happened.

I think the story is it was a demoed track that Dunn had no part in, he discovered it and recorded silly vocals over it. No great mystery.

Apparently Patton was in on it though, but he says he wasn't. And if that's true, how would they not know about the lyrics until it was too late to change it?

Patton played bass on it, hence why Dunn recorded vocals. They discovered the recording and I'm sure laughs were shared among all.

Sounds like a real hootenanny.

The recording for Dead Goon wasn't a hootenanny though. Trevor Dunn use to have the tabs on his website and it was impossible looking. He said the bass lines were written on piano by Danny Heifetz and that to play it he had to cross his arms or some goofy shit.

Ontop of wearing some gimp mask and outfit.

I don't see how moving the show to afternoons would alleviate the Opie hate or curb all the gun talk, music breaks, YouTube watching, etc...

This show needs an enema.

Anthony probably thinks second shift is for the "great unwashed."

That clip actually breaks down a lot of the for/against arguments, thanks for that.

If they did I think they would get more comedians and overall better guests...

I used to think this, but Howard's show is on in the morning and look at his guests: Seinfeld, Jay Z, Paul McCartney, etc. It's not about waking up in the morning, because people will do that if they have to, it's about what kind of show they're doing.

Good point

why would he?

the cancer will kill you in schenectady the same way it'll kill you in paris, france.

changing the time zone aka slot will not change anything at all, the critical move is to cut the metastases out, namely roland and opie. the show will never improve otherwise.

especially opie has basically lost touch even more than ever with his ill choice of topics, repetitive breaks about music and choice of phonecalls. he drags them all down with him.

I will never understand why Roland is ever permitted to talk on air.

You are a genius. Must be all that good Mike Patton work as opposed to his mediocre work.

Patton played bass on it, hence why Dunn recorded vocals. They discovered the recording and I'm sure laughs were shared among all.