Is it possible that they somehow found out that they probably won't be signed and are just riding out the Summer?

17  2014-06-13 by [deleted]

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Probably, Opie had a brief, "Eatman is fucking weak!" on Wednesday then yesterday some shitty celebrity was mentioned and Jimmy said, "Maybe he could help with contract negotiations". But let's not forget the show has been increasingly lazy for over a year now.

If they don't have people doing everything for them, they don't do anything.

I don't know a single SiriusXM subscriber. Who is subscribing to this shit? Truckers?

I'm one. I like Sirius and will continue paying for it long after this show is gone.

I was a subscriber for about 8 years, starting in the XM days. I'm one of the 17 people who paid for the High Voltage channel. Usually paid my fees in 2 year increments. At one point I was paying for two radios. Not any more.

These assholes have ruined their product with fees. When they merged, they said "no fee increases". Well there weren't...directly anyway.

But they added a "music access fee", and took away online listening (and started charging extra for that). So a $12.95 service was now almost $20 for the same product you had at $12.95.

They have added so many fucking commercials for dick pills, cheating sites, vermont teddy bear, SHAAAAARI'S BAAARIES, and cheap gold dipped roses that 15-20 minutes of every hour on the talk channels is just commercials. They also fucked up the music channels by picking Sirius' formats with DJs and shallow playlists.

We did get Sex Radio though. cause porn stars on the radio are FASCINATING. YUUUUUUUUCK.

Paying for it? LOL. The product sucks ass.

Taking away online listening from regular subscribers was such bullshit. I cancelled my subscription and re-signed up for online listening because that's what I used the most. My Inno has been a paperweight for years.

XM did things differently. The whole listening experience was unlike terrestrial in many ways. Sirius is just pay-radio, like basic cable vs AM/FM network TV. I miss the pre-merger days.

I believe Bobo or Patti would be happy to take that Inno off your hands.

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You might want to check for a radiation leak at the lab, you're not making sense.

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I am one. I will keep the subscription after this show is gone. have you listened to regular radio? it sucks.

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If they actually put some effort into it.

Not if it is going to be 3 guys sitting around watching TV, reading their social media accounts, and occasionally doing an interview they haven't prepared for.

Probably. I would pay for Sirius if there was anything else on the platform that I'm interested in.

Absolutely. Especially if it had video

i do. as a fancy gentleman of higher-than-average income, it's a mere handful of pennies to me per month.

that said, i would immediately cancel it if o&a were gone. the music channels are repetitive horseshit that are easily replaced by spotify.

I have four subs

There was the very brief mention last week that the reason they're not getting a new studio and all the other things they complain about not getting is because SiriusXM wants O&A to sign for another five years before they lay out all that money.

If this is the case, then it's possible SiriusXM are drawing the line and saying 'five years or nothing' this time.

If this is true - and it sounds very plausible, then them giving up on the show makes no sense if they don't plan on signing up for more - they'd want the show to be as good as possible, to get something new started.

I bet they reup for 3 years, and they get half the improvements they want.

I bet the reup for 3 years and don't get shit.

I bet they reup and slowly go the Howard route until they're doing 2 shows a month

I bet on blackjack asumpthin tsss

It's possible. SXM probably will just replace them with an Elton John channel or something. They're slowly becoming a waste of satellite bandwidth. :(

You don't think 'Survivor Radio' is going to save them?

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Not much of a future.? They're installing siriusxm into almost every new car and they have over 25 million subscribers. They're hardly on there way out as a company. In fact I believe they're worth more now than every before with lots of growth potential. Sxm ain't struggling like you'd think.

That's a marketing expense. They need to do that in order to potentially keep a customer past the 3 month free-trial most cars come with. Without that "free" radio in each car, they'd be dead in the water. You think people are really willing to bolt on an external Sirius radio to their dash anymore?

Cars are changing dramatically. Every new car will soon have some form of connectivity (either through your phone, or some dedicated connection) allowing drivers to tap into a much larger library of entertainment. Every song, album, or podcast will be at your fingertips. Why would most consumers choose to pay extra for a service that has some unique content, but is largely crap music channels they can get better versions of through Pandora, Spotify, iTunes Radio, Rdio, or whatever Beats turns into as a result of their acquisition by Apple.

Satellite radio is trying to fight this battle by scooping up as many licenses as they can (MLB, NFL, etc.) but there comes a point where it just won't make sense for the majority to pay a monthly fee for something they get for cheap or free elsewhere ... or, at the very least, can use both when they're in or out of the car without paying an extra "Online Radio Feed" fee.

My car came with xm, pandora, bluetooth and usb/ipod. I only keep xm because im too lazy to feed a recording of the show through my phone/btooth. When the subscription is up I will probably be motivated to not pay whatever i'm paying and just start going through phone.

That shit is a big threat to sirius and will absolutely be in most cars in the near future as it barely costs anything for the manufacturer.

I have Sirius, but it's way easier to download the show and play it through your phone to the aux input or whatever. That way when you leave the car you can keep listening with headphones. I've been doing it for years now. The Sirius part of my car is probably the most disposable with so many other options.

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If you've ever looked at a Tesla they're pretty awesome. They actually have a voice activated computer. You can just say "play x band" and it'll pop up songs from spotify or something of the like. If most cars ten years from now have that and data coverage improves, why need radio at all anymore?

That's a marketing expense. They need to do that in order to potentially keep a customer past the 3 month free-trial most cars come with. Without that "free" radio in each car, they'd be dead in the water. You think people are really willing to bolt on an external Sirius radio to their dash anymore?

Its called contractual agreements with auto makers and its how smart companies stay alive. They don't expect every new car buyer to subscriber to there service either. They expect a certain amount of growth from it. From what I've read SXM has seen a good amount of growth since being put in every car. I guess somebodies buying it. Not every person out there is a jaded prick that has there opinions about a company molded for them by Opie & Anthony.

Cars are changing dramatically. Every new car will soon have some form of connectivity (either through your phone, or some dedicated connection) allowing drivers to tap into a much larger library of entertainment. Every song, album, or podcast will be at your fingertips. Why would most consumers choose to pay extra for a service that has some unique content, but is largely crap music channels they can get better versions of through Pandora, Spotify, iTunes Radio, Rdio, or whatever Beats turns into as a result of their acquisition by Apple.

I like how you think you're somehow privy to information and knowledge over everyone else. I'm sure the Ivy League graduated folks running SXM are fully aware of the growing threats to there company. In fact SXM has recently acquired a company called Agero. There are talks of them buying Pandora out. Every forecast for the company says they are in great shape. They have contractual agreements with almost every large auto makers out there and have exclusive content deals with pretty much every major network. SXM also has a considerable amount of money to acquire several more companies if they want to. They also turn a profit unlike companies like spotify and most other "free" services.

They don't expect every new car buyer to subscriber to there service either.

It's spelled "their".

I'm sure you could find more than one typo and I don't give a shit. You understood what I was saying no need to be a faggot because you were wrong.

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You seem really tough on the internet. You also seem to have some true hatred for gay people. That should work out well for you in the real world.

Tough? I guess. True hatred for gays? Bwhahahahahahahahaha. AAAAHHHHHahahahahahaha. ahahahahaha. You're an idiot. Now fuck off faggot.

Hold me!

Adam Carolla is to blame. I always assumed a daily show wouldn't work as a podcast. I for one hope they go this route either together or with other partners, etc.

Me too. Minus Opie (for obvious reasons)

And then Anthony and Jimmy grew apart from Opie and 5 years from now they'd be doing Jocktobers of Opie's podcasts. He'd be the future Scorch

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Or Opie's hijinks at a 100 watt AM station in butt-fuck nowhere.

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His name is opiesucks you dolt.

Oh literal vincentgallosdick.

Adam Carolla does so many other things to make money there's no way he's making a lot from just the podcast. You think o and a have the desire to do tours and shows and travel? Maybe they do...but I'd have to see it to believe it.

That's the thing - anyone who has a successful podcast is absolutely not making a shitload of money from it, it's all the things either in support of the podcast that they do, or whatever the podcast is meant to support. O&A are too lazy for that.

Totally agreed. Every time they say podcast like it's a threat, I cringe. Kevin Smith, Adam C, all those guys use the podcast as a forum and tour around it with live gigs, and promote their other projects. There is no way that either of the boys will have that kind of zeal to do what it takes. They could have started this on their own about 5 years ago and rode the wave with everyone else, but they are so far behind now, a podcast network isn't going to happen.

Really? The guys so lazy they accepted Steve's vicious watermarking for 17 years are too lazy to create a successful podcast from the ground up?

I know, it sounds so unlike them.

MAAAAAANGRIA

They've been coasting since the last contract signing. I honestly think it's time for this show to break up and become something else. The passion is so gone and it's so jarring to hear what they do compared to even 4 years ago.

I agree with this. It really is time to just end the damn thing. Don and Mike broke up amicably after something like 20 years and I would bet at the time Don and Mike were younger than O&A now

One of those guys still does radio in NOVA. An hour in the late afternoon/early evening about sports at a station where his show used to be the flagship program. It's sad. He's actually doing "war of the roses" type bits now too.

I think he is gone from there and both are doing podcasts. Its sad, Don and Mike had a really good show (yes yes I know they battled O&A)

Or maybe Jimmy was going to scale his part on the show back to work on his other stuff and they just said fuck it?

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Yeah right, you really think they would continue the show without jimmy? No way, they'd be done for.

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Has nothing to do with the vice thing its a money issue and perhaps an Ego issue.

I meant to respond to the original guy. Apologies.

After reading your post again and actually thinking about it I now realize that.

Jim has been pretty insufferable overall for the past year.

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Ok, good for you.

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Sure.

Jim has set aside a large swath of time to strategize the best approach to getting podcasting equipment into Manhattan.

I think you're severely over estimating this Vice talk show he's involved in. As an organisation their popularity has begun to fade away and I fear Jimmy's show may turn into something more akin to Between The Two Ferns.

Of course, that's why Time Warner is in talks to buy them, you retard.

Dude, you cannot be this simple. That's not really the only bearing factor in a company purchase/investment. The failing entity that was MySpace was purchased when on a severely downward spiral. Car racing teams that have never won a race have been bought and sold for billions. Do some fucking research and realise that large umbrella companies investing in smaller slightly diminishing companies is standard procedure. What you said is a 13 year olds understanding of economics. Almost retarded.

Maybe he is 13

Except MySpace was sold for 35 million, not the 1.4+ billion dollars that VICE is being offered. The fact that VICE is being offered so much money is evidence that it is NOT fading away, since if it were fading away it would be offered a fraction of that money (just like MySpace).

So on one hand we have a valuation of the company in the billions suggesting that it's doing well and on the other hand we have... your opinion that it's fading? Yeah.

I said "severely downward spiral" when referring to MySpace. With regard to Vice, I said it's popularity has "begun to fade away". Wildly different.

Considering they are both completely different business types, comparing the amount of money that each was sold for is ludicrous. Monetising social media when MySpace was sold is pale in comparison to profiting from buying a news media outlet.

Do some research about failing companies that have been purchased by umbrella organisations for billions of dollars. Monetary value does not have to equal popularity.

Right. And yet we are still left with the choice of trusting a valuation of billions of dollars... or the opinion of some guy on the internet.

You've either missed the point or decided to be deliberately obtuse. Either way, it's difficult to give a fuck at this juncture.

What point did I miss? At the end of the day have you provided a single shred of evidence to suggest that it's value is fading away? No. So then we have no reason to take your opinion over the evidence we do have.

Obama was on Ferns, WTF are you talking about?

I wasn't being literal. I was implying that Between The Two Ferns is a joke about the banality of interview shows these days and that Jimmy's advice show will be closer to that than his desire/self expectation to be the next James Lipton.

How about hiring a new agent?

They're over 50. New agent is something you get in your late 20's (whaaay?)

LOL, laughably untrue. People change agents like their underwear at all ages.

Your ability to get an agent is tied to your potential INCOME, not your age.

And what do you think is the potential income for aging radio hosts in 2014, in a world where content is given away for free and radio talk is a dead business?

Opie and Anthony aren't musicians who could fall back on their greatest hits in Vegas or score lucrative deals that doesn't involve some form of radio broadcasting. I'm trying to imagine this agent scenario and coming up empty.

This isn't the early 2000's. That ship has sailed away long time ago.

Didn't a very elderly guest of the show just leave a show, start his own, and is getting good ratings? And making a pretty decent paycheck, as well.

You don't have a fucking clue to what you're talking about. It's not even worth responding to.

Who would that be?

Scotty!!!!

Also Larry Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.

How important is the board?

That would require effort. Maybe we can get them to do it on the show and turn it in to a bit? SAM, find a Opie a list of agents

James"babydoll" Dixon would be a perfect fit for the boys. He lives on the East Coast,and manages kimmel,jon stewart,bill maher,carolla and I think kevin smith.

You really think their agent is the problem? He's just another line-item on their long list of things they like to bitch about, but isn't really inhibiting them in any practical way.

Wow, great question. It would explain some things.

Would you let Opie and Anthony have access to your airwaves if they knew they had nothing to lose?

If I knew I held all the cards, which S/XM does? Absolutely

I guess satellite is different from radio but I always remember hearing that jocks who had been laid off wouldn't be allowed back in the booth. I know they haven't been laid off so I was just speculating like everybody else

they probably need a reduction in their contract so they can relate to the common man again.

Like "Barton Fink".

Man!

Idk, can you imagine the backlash? They have a pretty large viewership, second behind howard. I just don't know how you cancel one of your top rated shows.

Especially if Howard doesn't resign.

Would you ever leave a job that pays you millions to work 6 months out of the year?

Then taking their Fridays off with all their vacation time is a half-impression they're intentionally giving SXM to appear like they have no plans to use their days after their contract expires which would hint they have no plans with the company after their current deal is up. It's half-leverage.

Yeah, no. They're using them for the same reason Steve C did - they GO AWAY at the end of the year.

Once their current deal ends in October, EVERYTHING in it expires, including vacation time.

Of course.

And they will be back for what will most likely be a final 2 year run.

That's the thing - anyone who has a successful podcast is absolutely not making a shitload of money from it, it's all the things either in support of the podcast that they do, or whatever the podcast is meant to support. O&A are too lazy for that.

Yeah, no. They're using them for the same reason Steve C did - they GO AWAY at the end of the year.

Once their current deal ends in October, EVERYTHING in it expires, including vacation time.

MAAAAAANGRIA

If they don't have people doing everything for them, they don't do anything.