Show is boring today. Not much to talk about. Same shit conversation about Donald Sterling. Roland coming in and getting treated with kids gloves, another Adam Sandler sucks break, etc.
His point is shitty. If you work in a company that doesn't allow you to be a racist, don't get surprised that they kick you out when they find out you're a racist.
It's not really about the racism. Everyone has said shit they regret in an argument. Now imagine if what you said was recorded and released to the public.
I see that you're in argument mode where nothing I could ever say would make a difference or change your opinion in the slightest. So I guess we're done here.
I'm not even disagreeing with your point about recording, just your conflation of the two issues. Just because it was wrong to record him in the first place doesn't make it wrong to ban him.
The recording is maybe immoral and maybe against the law, but people don't really give a shit about some unknown person breaking the law.
People do give a shit about a powerful owner of an NBA franchise being a racist.
When it comes down to it, he doesn't get to go basketball games anymore and walks away with 2 billion dollars; she gets to blow all her money on lawsuits and possibly faces criminal charges. Who really gets hurt more by this?
Except it is immoral and by California state law it is illegal. It's a slippery slope, banning people for what they say in their private life. That recording would never hold up in court. It's an illegal recording.
It's not a slippery slope, it's the rule of the NBA. You CAN and WILL be banned as an owner if you are a racist. Don't be a shitty person if you are in a contractual agreement not to be a shitty person.
The firing is justifiable given the information that was leaked (although there was definitely evidence that Sterling was racist before this, like not renting apartments to black people, etc), but the way in which the information was obtained still has to be considered. Context is ignored far too often.
Right, the old "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" argument? I don't subscribe to that. Privacy is important, whether you have something to hide or not. Surveillance into people's private lives is the definition of a police state, and it's even worse if it's carried out by private citizens as opposed to government organizations.
You're breaking NBA rules as an owner whether you're racist in public or in private. The NBA is free to be a police state if it wants. She will be charged accordingly by the actual state if she broke the law.
You're right, the NBA can do what it wants. You seemed to be saying that it's ok that it was leaked in the first place because the things he was saying were horrible. Sorry if I misinterpreted.
His point is shitty. If you work in a company that doesn't allow you to be a racist, don't get surprised that they kick you out when they find out you're a racist.
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5 stevenknight 2014-04-30
I wouldn't get this annoyed listening to audio of my family being massacred as Ant & Jim do these press conferences.
No guests today.
3 FredericaBimmel 2014-04-30
Havent heard todays show yet, but i usually prefer no guest shows unless its a comedian who is just hanging.
1 [deleted] 2014-04-30
Like yesterday, when Lewis Black came in for the whole show like he always does...oh, wait...
So disappointed how short Lewis' visit was.
5 Its_Just_a_Ridee 2014-04-30
Why did these threads die out? Only 3 comments at 910. I usually have a good idea of what happened by now.
3 LarryNozowitz 2014-04-30
Show is boring today. Not much to talk about. Same shit conversation about Donald Sterling. Roland coming in and getting treated with kids gloves, another Adam Sandler sucks break, etc.
5 dochattan 2014-04-30
Don't forget ending the show with more cronut shit.
14 jsimm043 2014-04-30
Wait a minute, they're doing Cronuts talk today??? YES!!!! Can't wait for the upload!!!
Signed,
No one, ever
7 WhiskeynPeanutbutter 2014-04-30
ENOUGHABOUTTHECRONUTS
0 ScoleriBrother 2014-04-30
I was a little surprised that jim gave roland a few jabs yesterday, but they sorta went un-noticed.
0 ckb614 2014-04-30
"All a scorned woman has to do is record her husband saying horrible things"
Then don't say horrible things, idiot.
3 hansel4150 2014-04-30
You obviously haven't been in that situation.
7 ckb614 2014-04-30
No, I've never been recorded saying overtly racist shit, because I don't say overtly racist shit.
1 hansel4150 2014-04-30
You missed the point
4 ckb614 2014-04-30
His point is shitty. If you work in a company that doesn't allow you to be a racist, don't get surprised that they kick you out when they find out you're a racist.
3 hansel4150 2014-04-30
It's not really about the racism. Everyone has said shit they regret in an argument. Now imagine if what you said was recorded and released to the public.
-1 ckb614 2014-04-30
That's a separate issue for which the woman will deal with the consequences. Has nothing to do with the choice to fire him.
-1 hansel4150 2014-04-30
I see that you're in argument mode where nothing I could ever say would make a difference or change your opinion in the slightest. So I guess we're done here.
1 [deleted] 2014-04-30
YOU DONT FUCKING TELL HIM WHEN YOURE DONE
1 hansel4150 2014-04-30
Stop yelling
-1 ckb614 2014-04-30
I'm not even disagreeing with your point about recording, just your conflation of the two issues. Just because it was wrong to record him in the first place doesn't make it wrong to ban him.
The recording is maybe immoral and maybe against the law, but people don't really give a shit about some unknown person breaking the law.
People do give a shit about a powerful owner of an NBA franchise being a racist.
When it comes down to it, he doesn't get to go basketball games anymore and walks away with 2 billion dollars; she gets to blow all her money on lawsuits and possibly faces criminal charges. Who really gets hurt more by this?
She
-1 hansel4150 2014-04-30
Except it is immoral and by California state law it is illegal. It's a slippery slope, banning people for what they say in their private life. That recording would never hold up in court. It's an illegal recording.
1 ckb614 2014-04-30
It's not a slippery slope, it's the rule of the NBA. You CAN and WILL be banned as an owner if you are a racist. Don't be a shitty person if you are in a contractual agreement not to be a shitty person.
-1 CBAnaesthesia 2014-04-30
The firing is justifiable given the information that was leaked (although there was definitely evidence that Sterling was racist before this, like not renting apartments to black people, etc), but the way in which the information was obtained still has to be considered. Context is ignored far too often.
0 ckb614 2014-04-30
It has been considered. Everyone understands it was surreptitiously recorded. It doesn't matter to the NBA, nor should it.
1 [deleted] 2014-04-30
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3 CBAnaesthesia 2014-04-30
Right, the old "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" argument? I don't subscribe to that. Privacy is important, whether you have something to hide or not. Surveillance into people's private lives is the definition of a police state, and it's even worse if it's carried out by private citizens as opposed to government organizations.
0 ckb614 2014-04-30
You're breaking NBA rules as an owner whether you're racist in public or in private. The NBA is free to be a police state if it wants. She will be charged accordingly by the actual state if she broke the law.
1 CBAnaesthesia 2014-04-30
You're right, the NBA can do what it wants. You seemed to be saying that it's ok that it was leaked in the first place because the things he was saying were horrible. Sorry if I misinterpreted.
-3 TruckerLarryMustDie 2014-04-30
See like I said they have been phoning it in for years. Might as well try prep burger at this point. uuggghhhh
-21 JMueller2012 2014-04-30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8KCBZtpEk
-17 JMueller2012 2014-04-30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8KCBZtpEk
6 VanDamme79 2014-04-30
Fawkin double Boos cocksucka!!
14 jsimm043 2014-04-30
Wait a minute, they're doing Cronuts talk today??? YES!!!! Can't wait for the upload!!!
Signed,
No one, ever
7 WhiskeynPeanutbutter 2014-04-30
ENOUGHABOUTTHECRONUTS
4 ckb614 2014-04-30
His point is shitty. If you work in a company that doesn't allow you to be a racist, don't get surprised that they kick you out when they find out you're a racist.