Nick Cannon in white face is just the dumbest shit I've ever seen. That is all

Nick Cannon in white face looks like Opie at WAAF.

Any argument you had broke down when you said white callers got their jobs over more qualified candidates with absolutely no evidence; same with the Tim Sabean attack.

Ant's a racist, we see that no matter how hard he tries to cover it up. But you're not going to convince anyone by doing the same thing but in the other direction.

he tries to cover it up?

Well not cover it up, but rather rationalize it or explain it away.

"These are facts. I'm not racist if I'm reporting FACTS!"

I'm not saying you're a racist because of the facts, I'm saying you're a racist because you've memorized the facts

Or he uses those facts to blanket statements about entire populations.

You deserve to be stop and frisked because people the same shade as you do bad things.

That's true, it was just assumption about there being better candidates for a job than a talk radio caller. However, I was just pointing out that language skills aren't that important. It's more of an excuse to not hire certain people.

Whenever there's a white caller who sounds like an idiot they'll make fun of him (putting on a redneck accent etc.)

Whenever there's a black caller who sounds like an idiot they'll makke fun of him (putting on a ghetto accent etc.)

If a guy calls up (black or white) and they don't sound like a complete dolt they never really get called out by the boys cause there's nothing (in terms of their language) to get called out on.

I generally don't agree with Ant's extreme views on race, white privilege etc. at all but I think you're stretching here in terms of the language issue. Every dumb motherfucker gets the same treatment there.

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Black callers seem rare. But Anthony ALWAYS brings up the way black people speak. That's the reason they don't get jobs, remember?

Then an hour later he'll break into his ginny accent

A lot of black people choose to not speak proper English. They don't want to assimilate. They cry for "equal rights" while they differentiate themselves by speaking another language.

You do realize that modern linguistic science doesn't recognize a "proper" dialect of English, right?

AAVE is part of black culture. Why should they "choose" to change that, any more than American Southerners should "choose" to drop their own unique dialect?

There is a proper dialiect of English. It's called "grammatically correct."

No, there's a "grammatically correct" form of our particular dialect of English.

Shoutout to /r/badlinguistics

OK.. you can be semantical and argue that people in America are not speaking one single form of English or you can admit that people who intentionally pervert the language are not going to be on the top of most companies' "soon to be hired" lists.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics

Your understanding of language is more or less equivalent to a creationist's understanding of natural selection. It's honestly embarrassing.

	

	

	

Linguistics:

Linguistics is the scientific study of language. There are broadly three aspects to the study, which include language form, language meaning, and language in context. The earliest known activities in the description of language have been attributed to Pāṇini around 500 BCE, with his analysis of Sanskrit in Ashtadhyayi.

Language can be understood as an interplay of sound and meaning. The discipline that studies linguistic sound is termed as phonetics, which is concerned with the actual properties of speech sounds and non-speech sounds, and how they are produced and perceived. The study of language meaning, on the other hand, is concerned with how languages employ logic and real-world references to convey, process, and assign meaning, as well as to manage and resolve ambiguity. This in turn includes the study of semantics (how meaning is inferred from words and concepts) and pragmatics (how meaning is inferred from context).

There is a system of rules (known as grammar) which govern the communication between members of a particular speech community. Grammar is influenced by both sound and meaning, and includes morphology (the formation and composition of words), syntax (the formation and composition of phrases and sentences from these words), and phonology (sound systems). Through corpus linguistics, large chunks of text can be analysed for possible occurrences of certain linguistic features, and for stylistic patterns within a written or spoken discourse.

The study of such cultural discourses and dialects is the domain of sociolinguistics, which looks at the relation between linguistic variation and social structures, as well as that of discourse analysis, which involves the structure of texts and conversations. Research on language through historical and evolutionary linguistics focuses on how languages change, and the origin and growth of languages, particularly over an extended period of time.

During the 20th century, Ferdinand de Saussure distinguished between the notions of langue and parole in his formulation of structural linguistics. According to him, parole is the specific utterance of speech, whereas langue refers to an abstract phenomenon that theoretically defines the principles and system of rules that govern a language. In classical Indian philosophy of language, Patanjali distinguished between sphota (meaning) and dhvani (sound) in the creation of shabda, which literally means "spoken word".

Katyayana, another Indian philosopher, further distinguished between shabda (utterance) and artha (meaning). In modern-day theoretical linguistics, Noam Chomsky distinguishes between the notions of competence and performance, where competence is the inherent capacity for language, while performance is the specific way in which it is used.

Traditionally, speech, or shabda, has thus been assigned the role of the central signifier in language, with writing being seen only as its reflection. But in his 1967 book, Of Grammatology, Jacques Derrida critiqued this arbitrary distinction between speech and writing, and emphasised on how written symbols are also legitimate signifiers in themselves.

The study of grammar led to fields like psycholinguistics, which explores the representation and function of language in the mind; neurolinguistics, which studies language processing in the brain; and language acquisition, which investigates how children and adults acquire a particular language. During the 1970s and 1980s, research developments also took shape in the field of cognitive linguistics through theorists such as George Lakoff, who view language as a conceptual function of the mind, as opposed to a pre-defined grammatical template.

Language is also influenced by social, cultural, historical and political factors, and linguistics can be applied to semiotics, for instance, which is the general study of signs and symbols both within language and without. Literary critics study the use of language in literature. Translation entails the conversion of a text from one language to another. Speech language pathologists work on corrective measures to remove communication disorders largely at the phonetic level, employing a combination of cognitive and phonological devices.

Language documentation combines anthropological inquiry with linguistic inquiry to describe languages and their grammars. Lexicographers map vocabularies in languages to write dictionaries and encyclopedias and edit other such educational material for publishing houses. In the age of digital technology, linguists, translators, and lexicographers work on computer language to facilitate and create web entities and digital dictionaries on both mobile as well as desktop machines, and create software through technical and human language that enables a large number of social functions, from designing to even machine-based translation itself. Actual knowledge of a language can be applied in the teaching of it as a second or foreign language. Research experiments in linguistics have in the recent years, seen communities of linguists build new constructed languages like Esperanto, to test the theories of language in an abstract and artificial setting. Policy makers work with the government to implement new plans in education and teaching which are based on certain linguistic factors.

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Thanks!

How is my idea (which isn't my unique idea) that people should all speak in the same grammatically correct way an embarrassment? Should we is speaks any hows we like? Or should everybody be able to understand and converse in one accepted way? Enough with this stupid fuckin idea that every version of slang needs to be accepted/appreciated.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about, that's what's embarrassing. You clearly have no concept of what modern linguistics theory is, and yet you fancy yourself capable of deeming a particular dialect of English the "default" one. You also seem entirely ignorant of the fact that Standard English is relative to region, and you employ a "perverted" form of English too. Not that modern linguists use that term, as it's wholly meaningless.

I'm done with you, but I will be linking your comments to /r/badlinguistics so they can laugh at your ignorance. Toodles. :)

Great. And once you do that and I bet you that everybody will be able to understand what I am saying the same way I was able to understand what you are saying. Why are you talking to me in the same "dialect" that I am? We is speakin in the same language yo. Fuck all ya'll.

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"And I bet you that"

"And I would bet you that" would be a more proper way to phrase that statement. Please stop perverting the English language with you inaccurate grammar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics

I can tell Anthony doesn't post here because ctrl+f "disproportionate" yielded no results.

Ha! That one word would give him away so quick.

and yet when I did it, it led me straight to your post. Hrmmm.

I guarantee you Tim Sabean doesn't just fuck around all day

I'm sorry, I'm going to need some proof. I remember him being a total clown at Howard's studio. And you can't argue with the point that the man cannot spell.

No you don't. Your opinion of Tim Sabean is irrelevant.

Not in my argument. My argument is that Ant's opinion that the language skills of blacks keeps them from getting jobs. So I used Sabean as an example of someone who clearly has poor writing skills that got a very good job.

Are you Tim Sabean's side bitch?

ant is an idiot but a lot of black people do suck, but we do have some embarrassing whites, but im from the northeast so im around more educated white people.

"Alot" of black people do suck and "some" embarrassing whites. See how subtle you think you're being.

It's not regular white people that are the problem. It's mostly the dagos. And you know where they came from.

Ant's talked about selling cocaine and stealing drive shafts on the show. He's exactly the kind of person he claims to hate.

His racism is twisted self-loathing.

The only thing I don't get about the fireman drama is. Why do you need to know what a chalice is? Who else is bred to pick things up and put them down? That's right, n people...

Why do we expect black people to write and speak perfect english with no dialect

Because the liberals mantra is that black people are no different on aggregate (and superior, as you seem to be implying in the next statement) and strongly chastise any mentioning of differences, so the differences stick out and you notice them, and they're more aggravating since they're so obvious but the elephant in the room can't be mentioned.

The 'white trash' trope has been a media favorite of the past 70 years, it doesn't surprise anybody when white people sound like a redneck. It isn't a controversy that rednecks exist and are understood as dumb. However, blacks are portrayed as smart and eloquent in nearly all representations in media, like commercials or sitcoms and the like, so reality is a shocker.

Many of them have jobs that are taken from better qualified candidates.

Really? This is why your whole premise is fucking stupid. Academia is filling people's heads up with the notion that white people don't deserve to be successful and somehow hinting that non-white people are more qualified and there's actually discrimination against non-whites going on despite no evidence to back it up.

Really, the HR departments filled with non-whites and social justice freaks are going to allow blatant 'whites only' hiring practices, not even to mention organizations like the SPLC, ADL or ACLU that are constatly on the prowl trying to sniff these things out.

Also, why do you assume that whites get hired over better qualified POC candidates? Do you want me to post test scores or IQ scores with results divided up by race? Because the idea that POC are on average better qualified than whites is straight up laughable. This one takes care of the socio-economic argument, for example.

Here's some of that white college privilege.

"many of them have jobs.." that was referring specifically to the callers and not white people on a whole. I was just pointing out that language has little to do with hiring. As for the rest of your book, I don't know. I haven't read it yet.

Most of the callers are miserable truckers. Not really a shining example of white privilege.

But they have jobs and no communication skills. I know that doesn't sound like much but it is in this economy.

Sorry, I'm still just not buying that hiring bias in favor of whites exists in 2014 unless I see hard facts which none of the white privilege mongers seem to have. And even then, the argument still relies on the assumption that everyone is equally capable, which I'm just not seeing.

Please, tell us more about your oppression. When you get back from /r/WhiteRights that is.

No, I don't subscribe the the self-crippling victimology competition of the social justice crowd. It's telling of your values and the people you associate with that you think somebody would actually desire that.

And yet, there your posting history in WhiteRights is refuting that, for all to see. Boo hoo hoo, someone suggested that I not be catered to exclusively, my rights are in danger abloooblooobloo.

You haven't read my posting history accurately then. I'm not making the arguments from the social justice pity-party thought bubble. I'm not coming to the social justice crowd and bending a knee on behalf of 'white people' to receive some social justice oppression credit on behalf of white guys.

I'm informing white people of their situation and that the 'white privilege' phenomenon is unsubstantiated bullshit meant to take them down a notch. I don't expect nor do I care if non-whites don't sympathize or care about this situation unique to whites. That's the difference between the social justice crowd and me. The social justice crowd bitches about fabricated oppression and somehow expects the people that they hate (straight white males) to care.

Also, that insipid "abloobloobloo" shit seems familiar. You're pretty far in, aren't you? Do you know OP from some obscure social justice IRC or the like? Maybe SRS?

bahahahahaha

yes, I'm part of a vast internet Social Justice Conspiracy that is putting your quest to save white people from the slavering hordes of subhuman mongrels in danger. Will the white male's voice never be heard in America? BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA.

Great response. You could have contributed some numbers to support the idea of white hiring bias, but how could you? They don't really exist. Like I said, unsubstantiated bullshit.

BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA.

You probably should have left off the fluff and just posted this.

"You could have contributed some numbers to some random horseshit I threw out there to secure a future for white children, but insteablahblahvocksblah"

I know numbers and hard facts confuse SJW types, sorry I couldn't phrase it in the emotional victim-oppressor relationship you understand. Ooga booga, friend.

Yes indeed, I automatically gain "SJW" status for recognizing a white guy pretending racism (institutionalized and otherwise) doesn't exist and "white rights" are in danger for what he is: a detestable shitlord.

Good night sweet prince, don't forget to put a gun under your pillow in case those rampaging negro-beasts come for your white women in the night.

Yes indeed, I automatically gain "SJW" status for recognizing a white guy pretending racism (institutionalized and otherwise) doesn't exist

If it exists or not, why should I care? The academic vanguard of social justice is already incredibly antagonistic and makes no bones about whites, especially white men as enemies of the egalitarian revolution, so what shit do I give if racism exists? It's just going to get more and more vicious as the pattern has been for the last 60 years, so why not just oppose it altogether? It's not like the SJW crowd gives whites a good incentive to support them.

I'll still be fighting a downhill battle whether I fight racism or not, I'm still a white guy at the end of the day. It's like the KKK getting indignant at blacks not supporting anti-black rhetoric in principle. What's the incentive for white guys being sympathetic or helping the social justice crowd out? There is none.

Actually dude, I've had a change of heart. PM me your triggers and I'll try to avoid them in the future. Insert typical white guy grovelling that earns me no respect or equity anyways.

Anyways, if you are a self-hating white guy(which I doubt by how you type), try lifting, get your testosterone up. It's harder to be a grovelling self-hating coward when you have at least a little in your veins and makes it easier to stick up for yourself.

ahahahaha please keep going! This gets more and more psychotic/retarded the longer you keep talking

What are you anyways?

The more important question is apparently do I even lift bro?

I like Ant's racial rants just to see hear the reaction of the people who want to counter Ant's point. Phones must always be ringing whenever he rants.

I don't understand the utter arrogance that he has to have to constantly rant about black inferiority, being taxed too much because of the black devil in office, and is generally the most entitled person I've ever heard...but just won't acknowledge white entitlement.

I'm glad Jimmy started fighting back but still.

How incredibly brave of you to bring social justice to this subreddit. I was waiting for somebody to speak out to these shitlords here.

To be perfectly honest, I think the same person or people who had the Ku Klux Klan Man song on their show multiple times kinda runs out of any sort of room to be offended by stuff. That whole thing about people in glass houses throwing stones and whatnot.

Dumb black people are typical. Half of American blacks have an IQ under 85.

He's not even white! Or Italian.

Ant is a racist, through and through.

No no, it's just a bit for the show! continues to argue that it's a bit mindlessly without a shred of evidence

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Why are you offended?

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I think you can't explain yourself. That's why you won't explain. Go smoke another bowl.

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Good one. Your comment or mine? Because you haven't said anything yet.

I've never heard the words "white privilege" come out of the mouth of any working class negro. I have heard it most from white comedians and political personalities and black academics.

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So are they savages or are they sophisticated? And what kind of weed you smoke?

Racist.

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Good one. Your comment or mine? Because you haven't said anything yet.

I've never heard the words "white privilege" come out of the mouth of any working class negro. I have heard it most from white comedians and political personalities and black academics.

No, there's a "grammatically correct" form of our particular dialect of English.

Shoutout to /r/badlinguistics

No you don't. Your opinion of Tim Sabean is irrelevant.

Racist.

But they have jobs and no communication skills. I know that doesn't sound like much but it is in this economy.

"You could have contributed some numbers to some random horseshit I threw out there to secure a future for white children, but insteablahblahvocksblah"