I think Ope would disagree with mishearing it:

'Wait wait wait, I know I might pump it up for the show a bit (ah, for da shoe, for da shoe), but these duuuuuummies have no iDEA what goes on behind the scenes. They don't know. 'Twitter voice rant'. Opie is a character, I've had that dumb name since I was a KID. I'm not like this outside the show. In the old days the Opester put up some numbers, sure, but truth be told, I'm actually a nice guuuuy, but these dummies don't know that. Especially these iiiiidiots down the hall. We can't get anything done around here because they just want to give all the money to one guy, and fine, if that's what they want to do, but he doesn't care about them, you think he gives a shit about this company? Neeeeooooooooo! No WAY. And of COURSE Howard is going to say something about my dad because the company fucking LOVES that guy. Seriously for a minute, I'm breaking down a wall: As a father of two kids, I'm ready to walk away, I have my fuck you money, I don't NEED this SSSHhHHit, people think I need this shit? Neeooooooo, I'm here because believe it or not? I actually like this dumb show, I actually like coming here, and if you Dummies don't like it, listen to something else, it doesn't bother me either way. I could give a shit.

Ant: Yeah.

Spot on, man.

That was pretty good.

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LMAO this was perfect I laughed my ass off at Anthony saying yeah at the end hahahaha

That was magical.

I used to listen to Howard all the time and he very rarely talked about O & A.

If ever.

Are all the behind the scenes theories as bad as they say then?

I would have no way of knowing that. But I do know for a fact that Howard had O&A silenced because he didn't want to take them on. Look up Sean hannity Howard stern on YouTube.

Valid point. Ha, you had one piece of information I didn't and all of a sudden I assumed you had the inside skinny on everything. I've kind of started listening to Ant when Ope rants about the company or an old associate. If Ant jumps in and agrees and they riff, I take it as pretty much a fact, but if Ant stays out of it or just mildly agrees with some weird, half hearted or vague statement like 'Yeah, that'll do it', I'm more skeptical.

Same here.

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You're so vain, you think this dead father reference is about you.

Hilarious.

Howard never said anything about Opie's dad.

If even half of Opie's mother stories are true, it isn't any sort of a surprise as to his mental issues.

His stories remind me a lot of my childhood.... can confirm am crazy...

If this is it, Opie is wrong.

His persecution complex is amazing. No personal responsibility EVER TAKEN. Then again the other guys are that way too, but Opie the most.

He might have meant this part. This part is about Opie's dad, though technically Stern really didn't say it, he did bring it up so that Dice would say it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YvA-GVsT7eM#t=381

He wasn't attacking Opie's father, he was doing a call-back to earlier when Dice was uncomfortable with Howard talking about skull-fucking Mancow's Dad. He brought it up again because Dice brought up skull-fucking again. That's how the show works.

Listen to it in context and it makes sense. He never attacked O&A's families because their feud was never personal like his was with Mancow. Dice was the one bashing Opie that day, all Stern said was that they were imitators.

Yeah, ok, but he's clearly riffing on what Stern said earlier about Mancow. He wasn't maliciously attacking Opie's dead dad.

Yeah, but Stern brought it up so that Dice would riff on that now.

I'm not saying it's a huge deal, just that it wasn't a confusion with mancow.

Obviously he wasn't bringing it up so Dice would riff on it, he brought it up because earlier when he said he wanted to fuck Mancow's Dad's skull, Dice specifically told him that was going too far and to stop bringing it up.

That doesn't make sense since. If you listen to the clip, it's Dice himself who says he would fuck Opie's skull (out of nowhere), and then says he would fuck Opie's father skull as well when asked.

If Dice thought it was "too far" why would Dice himself bring it up initially, and then say yes after he was asked?

What Dice said about "going too far" was that he had already tried to patch things up with Mancow, and didn't want Stern trying to make things worse. It wasn't that Dice thought "father-skull-fucking" was too far.

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I know. I meant, that joke was already done at that point and he was the one that brought it up again without being prompted. If he really thought that line of jokes was out of line, he wouldn't have brought it up again once it was done...

Again, nobody is denying it was a callback... the point is Stern/Dice were not talking about Mancow at that point he was talking about Opie and his dad. Dice made a callback, and then Stern setup Dice so he would continue the joke and say he would fuck Opie's dad skull too.

"Well, would you fuck his father's skull?"

Oh yeah, it's just a brilliant ad-lib, sure.

Wat

"WELL, WOULD YOU FUCK HIS FATHER'S SKULL?"

OH YEAH, IT'S JUST A BRILLIANT AD-LIB, SURE.

THEY HEARD ME

Opie has always wanted to be personally attacked by Stern on the air, but all Stern ever did was lump them in as one of the many other shows that were just bad copies of his own. This claim that Stern savagely attacked his dead Dad is something he still clings to, desperately wanting that personal rivalry with his hero.

I hope this isn't what he was referring to, because that would mean he clearly didn't understand what was happening.

Try to find any other clip of Howard supposedly talking about Opie's dad. I can't find anything. I'm 99.9% certain this is the clip he is referring to.

I was in the same place with not knowing what he was referring to yesterday and finding that odd because I'm pretty faithful to the show.

Well, if someone was going to misunderstand a comment, it was Opie. I know you're getting downvoted because of your title, but I think this is sort of interesting considering the attention he brings to it when it comes up.

that would mean he clearly didn't understand what was happening.

Yeah that would just be so totally inconceivable right?

Oh no, I think he's obviously the worst of the group when it comes to this sort of thing. I even said that in my second comment.

Ant and especially Jimmy seem more willing to reason and analytical when it comes to what people say about the show or them personally.

What is the timing of the clip? If they were doing Opie bashing right after Opie Sr. died and then threw in a mancow's dead dad line, and then continued with the Opie bashing, it's pretty obvious what's going on. It's a pretty standard pussy shock jock move. The context tells the story.

Opie's dad died during the time that O&A were not even on the air. It was never mentioned on the radio. Stern talked about "fisting manqueer's dead daddy's skull" since the 90's when they were in that big radio war. This mention had nothing to do with Opie's dad.

Maybe, but remember when Mancow's dad died?

He make a big thing about it and wrote a corny book about his family.

I'm really finding it hard to believe Ope could be that dumb. Did a fan edit the clip and send it to him to gas-light him?

i'm not.

Hahaha, the name really sells it.

You new here?

First time, Long time. Sort of. I don't pay much attention to the names, just read the opinions.

Love the show BTW, Ant.

Dude trust me when I say this, back then Howard could've given two fucks about O&A...and that's what drove Opie fucking bananas. Just how Opie was mentioning how terrestrial guys would be listening to them in the XM days, I wouldn't be surprised if they or an intern did the same thing with Howard.

Through again, I'm someone who wants to be entertained and could careless about their feud, if you're not face to face talking the shit out, then keep it moving.

If Howard didn't care about them, then why did he put a gag order on them when they worked for Infinity Broadcasting? They were barred from talking about him, and were shut out from any event involving him. This is how their hatred of him started, he was actively working against them. Howard may never admit it publicly, but he either saw them as real competition. They may not have been at the time, but if the company they worked for actually supported them like they did Howard, who knows.

The gag order came after they got on the air and deliberately sabotaged a surprise STP show that K-Rock was putting on and Howard was supposed to announce on his show the next day. They sabotaged his show, he retaliated by sabotaging theirs. They have admitted that their goal in starting a war with him was to get him to talk about them on the air. He knew better than to fall into that trap when they weren't even in the same time slot as him and worked for the same company. People could listen to his show AND theirs, so talking about them would just be promoting their show.

Rappers use this same tactic all the time. Diss a big-name rapper you've never even met in hopes that he'll diss you back and make you famous. It doesn't work when the big name rapper won't put out any records dissing you back, and gets the record company to take his name off your records. Now you've got to make it on your own merit as a rapper and not him mentioning your name, and you can't even use his name to draw attention to yourself.

They started a war against someone who had a lot more power in radio than them and it backfired. If they would have been honest and admitted that they grew up fans of his they might have gotten his blessing and made it a lot further than they did. Instead they tried to use his own tactics against him and failed.

I was referring to post gag order calm down lol

And if he's ever called out, he'll probably say it's a bit. It's a terrible bit so it's highly plausible.

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all i remember is someone saying that they were gonna find his grave and skull fuck him and then send pics to opie but i think that was a listener who said it.

that was mancow, not opie

Isn't it most likely that initially he may have misunderstood this clip after a listener told him that Howard was bashing his dead father? He may have even broadcast that sentiment before he realized it wasn't accurate, but he already was playing the tough guy by then and it just added to the feud. Now he probably just reiterates it to needle Howard knowing that most people won't hear the clip or they might hear it wrong too. It seems unlikely that other goons like us wouldn't have mentioned his mistake long ago.

Good catch/find. If this is the only thing the Opster was referring to, he should check out that audio again. I'd imagine he was so furious when he heard this that he wasn't really listening with both ears, he probably heard Hoo-Hoo say 'dead father' and assumed the topic was himself.

I'm not sure, though, whether I only find this to be in poor taste because I nurture my seething disgust for Howard with an enthusiastic vigor or if it's intrinsically worse than something 'The Destroyer' would say. I guess there's still a light heartedness that comes across when the boys go for a shock laugh like that (dead daughter caller didn't feel like it was done to make that guy off himself, even though it was a horrific moment.) Howard seems 100% serious here and that gives it a completely different (worse) vibe.

Pretty obvious he was just trying to push the guy to talk more shit about stern.

Excellent job.

Opie is and always will be that 'cool' fag from the 1990's with the buttcut and stoner linguistics.

I laughed yesterday when he complained about the name Opie. He is still a complete Opie in his old age.

You opie lovers need to come to terms with the fact that he is not a comedian, I love his balance to the radio show, but you cannot deny that he often ruins good bit by running them into the ground. He tries to hard to over-compensate for not having any comedic value. Nopie shows are fun once in awhile, but more often than not they have no direction and end up being disorganized and repetitive (Ants weakness).

wait that is Opie in the first link? Is there a youtube video of the board op talking about this clip ?

Relax.

If ever.

that was mancow, not opie

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