Jimmy and the nerdist

37  2014-01-08 by [deleted]

Listen, I genuinely don't like Chris Hardwick, I think he's an over eager tool, but I feel like Jimmy might have been blowing this out of proportion. They had him on in the end and appeared happy to see him, I don't see the big deal. Edit: Hardwick is a nice and a redditor (See: O&A Sarah Jessica Parker phone call)

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I completely fucked up. Contrary to what's written in some of the other comments here, Jim coming on the show was NOT a favor. I really wanted him on and it would've happened sooner if we lived in the same city. Apparently this came up on O&A (judging by this thread) `and I only wished he had felt comfortable reaching out to me first so I could have cleared it up. However, if he did trash me I'm happy to take the medicine on this one since the blame is mine. Pushing the ep back so far was NOT intentional. We had been recording an INSANE amount of podcasts during that period. I believe we did it in August, and there was an onslaught of Fall movies/TV shows that filled the calendar in addition to all of the ones we had recorded around SDCC in July. The way the show works a lot of the time is that when guests come on there's a stipulation that their ep HAS to go up on a certain date. We had those slots filled for about 3 months (which is why we hadn't had so many hostful (host only) podcasts in a while. Because I had been so swamped, I just forgot that Jim's ep was promoting his special so I had put it in the evergreen (in other words, not time sensitive) folder. It was a shitty mistake to make, particularly for another comic. Jim's a good dude and an amazing comedian and this was completely my fault. It was in no way malicious, nor did I think it wasn't a great ep (I loved it--Jim brought a great energy to the show to balance out my "overeager toolness" [that was for you, OP!]), nor did I think Jim just wasn't important enough to put up earlier. Just an honest mistake. I always try to do my best, but as I well know, that doesn't mean I'm still not going to fuck things up sometimes. Apologies, Jim!!! SIDENOTE: After re-reading this post I am now mad at how obsessed with parentheses I apparently am (true story).

chris, we apologize for jim, he's a sensitive boy.

You nailed it. We love Jim. But today we are embarrassed for him

Ugh why do you have to be so likeable! Now I feel embarrassed. Excuse me while I bury my head in more negativity.

But honestly I never thought you had any ill will, you're a nice dude, it just seemed to rub our jimmy the wrong way, but he's a sweet boy I promise!

Best of luck.

I totally understand! I sent him a very long apology email in hopes that he knows it was not intentional.

I just hope you understand that our lil Jimmy is ultimately a sweet sensitive boy and a sweater boy cutie.

You aren't a tool you just don't have the personality type of us savages. Tool basically means he doesn't feel like you'd call a loud woman a cunt. Nice to see you're accountable though chris. Thanks for sharing with the fans.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned: Jim did at one point say that he couldn't completely motherfuck you, because he got scheduled at the last minute and you were nice enough to have him do the podcast, and was more mad at his management people than anything.

He probably just needed a nap...he's a cranky boy when he's sleepy.

Young James is a very depressed little boy. He believes his parents are getting divorced and he doenst know which one he will move with to do his imaginary advice show in the treehouse with the wire and empty soup cans.

Honestly, I think he was peeved more than anything else. He played it up for comedic effect, but I don't think he was genuinely "angry". Your e-mail will probably have him gushing on the next show, though.

Hard and Phirm was just on Comedy central. Are you guys ever performing together again?

Is this a fucking AMA?

Just asking dude. Is that really a crime?

Please tell my you included a cock pic.

Listen, I genuinely don't like Chris Hardwick, I think he's an over eager tool

Why is that every time someone on reddit brings up their hate for Chris Hardwick and he comes and comments, the person does a complete 180 on their opinion of him? Either you hate him for no good reason or you secretly like him. Make up your mind people!

edit- Also I'm missing the context to this post

I'm not the biggest fan but again he seems nice, not really my bag. I do like the podcast though and used to listen back in the day. He was polite despite me being mean so I can have too much ill will

This is completely understandable. Plus, it made for a great unintentional comedy when jimmy mentioned his special and you said something along the lines of "don't worry, we'll get this on before it comes out."

Ha! Goddammit I suck.

Chris hardwick, a guy on comedy central and AMC almost every week gets no attention when he's on this subreddit. However there is have been posts devoted to finding out what ape haired Sam Roberts reddit account name is. We stink and we shouldn't like eachother.

He apologized to you today on the show, saying he was more bothered by the lack of information from his management. I'm sure he replied to your personal email to him, but just wanted to let you know he made a 'public' apology as well.

Jim's a good dude. He sent a really nice reply. I look up to him as a comic. He's able to make really honest shit funny, which is something I'd like to learn how to do.

Damn it Hardwick, now I feel like a dick for skipping tonight's @midnight episode!

(It's ok though, I don't have a Neilsen box, so I don't matter.)

Awe Chris! I felt so bad. Jim was just frustrated. He has blown up a many times before about other things. I heard your hostful Christmas/ New Years podcast and you went through some horrible shit with your dad and your girl. Plus being busy with tv/ comedy shows/podcasts. I hope it gets resolved you are one of my favorite OnA guests. I instantly subscribed to nerdist after your appearance.

Jim's a good dude and an amazing comedian

Now we know he's lying.

Knew nothing about Chris Hardwick before this, now I want to elect him as a public official of some sort.

Ya know, I don't know of you much, and I've never listened to your podcast, but Jimmy sounds like a cunt here. Hell before I read this when I listened to the segment where he was complaining I thought he was being a baby.

This is basically what I thought would have happened. No one meant any harm, I think Jim might just be a bit sensitive when it comes to things like this as he takes it personally and as if it was purposely done, when it's just simple human error.

Just about to watch the latest episode of @Midnight on Hulu, you must be happy with the show, seems to be well received and it's good to see Americans warming up to panel shows, you should look into hosting a US version of Would I Lie To You or 8 Out of 10 Cats.

Thanks for the explanation. I made a couple posts yesterday about how I felt Jimmy was being a bit of a baby about the whole thing, and I'm a big Norton fan. Sometimes he just gets his wittle feelings hurt when he shouldn't. Like others said I wish he would have just contacted you about it... I mean he had 5 months to get in touch and ask you when it was going up.

Edit: The podcast was great btw. I lost it when Jim made the horse noise when talking about moving the knight.

Glad to see there's no beef between nerdist and jimmy. It was a great podcast. I hope you can get more NY comics on as they come west for stuff - I feel like you've run through many of the LA comics.

That's awesome that you came to our shitty subreddit and addressed this. I am addicted to your bowling series, over of the best web series around.

Chris guess what

You have literally done nothing wrong. Like, at all. Jimmy was just going all stream-'o'-consciousness with his insecurities and his friend Opie was defending his friend without really understanding what's going on. It happens more often than you think, unfortunately, and that's why this subreddit is chattering. It's so common, fans get frustrated with Jimmy, as a lot of listeners feel like they're seeing a close family member burning bridges with good people.

And just in case, to prevent the possible development of any more unnecessary insecurities, I think I can speak for the rest of this subreddit when I say you're a sweet boy and a talented man, Mr. Hardwick. You've been on the receiving end of something you didn't deserve to be on the receiving end of, and I hope something like this doesn't prevent you from coming on O&A in the future--even though everyone would understand if you didn't. But I must say you're handling this really well for someone that, again, literally did nothing wrong.

P.S.; You're really good on O&A and sound significantly less eager than Rich Vos.

A comedian goes on a show to promote something happening soon, and the show doesn't air the taping for a half a year.

Now, you're telling me Nerdist didn't fuck up? You're out of your mind.

Is Chris that motherfucker from Talking Dead?

No. He's that cocksucker from Talking Dead.

Jimmy's world revolves around Jimmy's obsessions. He is a self-absorbed cunt sometimes. We fans have come to realize that it's the price we pay to be able to enjoy Uncle Paul and Dr. Chipperson.

Yeah, you're probably right. The problem with listening to 3 people talk everyday is discovering their apparent flaws, but it's worth it for a well-timed dick joke here and there

This!

Eww

Hey, it doesn't look that bad...

Hardwick's post in this thread is a perfect example of why Jimmy's ego is absolutely killing his career:

"Apparently this came up on O&A (judging by this thread) `and I only wished he had felt comfortable reaching out to me first so I could have cleared it up"

Jimmy was fucking lucky that this guy was so cool about it, as far as I'm aware the Nerdist has a huge platform and A-list guests, and what does Jimmy do? He goes and bitches about it in public before even trying to contact those involved. How the fuck does he think his career is going anywhere if he immediately burns any bridges he builds like a petulant child?

It's the comedian low self esteem. "Fuck it he doesn't like me anyway, i'm going to call him a cunt!"

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It isn't the first time and it has come up FROM Jimmy that this is a problem for him. He feels so low about himself he automatically feels like someone is fucking him if he feels affronted by them. He should have shot a quick email or just let it go. ALSO could be just Op and Ant using it as show fodder to give a rant moment for Jimmy, it is a comedy show after all followed by a bunch of savages.

I don't have anything to add about Jimmy's hurt feelings about being bumped for A-listers .... just wanted to say I'm happy Chris Hardwick was able to get his podcasting equipment into whatever city he podcasts from.

I agree. It reminded me of the irrational unfollowing tantrum when comedians didn't help him with his project. I think this also has something to do with his ego, being delayed for bigger guests and realizing he isn't that important of a celebrity in the grand scheme of things. I mean look at it rationally, he got to promote in a timely manner on like 4 other of the biggest podcasts on earth so why would he give a fuck? Love Jim, but whenever I hear him criticize someone in that sneering voice calling them a "baby boy," I feel like he is talking to the part of himself he doesn't like.

Was that when Colin called him out over the phone when he stopped following his comedian friends on twitter? That was uncomfortable...

yep

link?

Yeah that definitely bothered me hearing Jimmy throw his little tantrum. Chris clearly had him on as a favor. If you look at the list of celebs the nerdist has on, there are some pretty big names. Tom Hanks, Kevin Bacon, Will Ferrell, Patrick Stewart, Conan O'brien, Drew Carey, Bill Maher, Bryan Cranston, Tina Fey, etc. He lands a lot of heavy hitters that are more A list and Jimmy is more of a C list guy. His comedy style also isn't exactly suited for the mood of that particular podcast. I'm sure what happened is Jimmy's agent or whoever contacted Hardwick's people and tried to set up Jimmy being on the podcast. Hardwick's people told them they are booked solid and dunno if they can get him in before his comedy special release date. Then without knowing this was basically a no, Jimmy texted Chris to ask to be on. Chris assumed Jimmy's people already told Jimmy the answer was pretty much no but saw the text as a desperate plea to be allowed on so Chris said OK as a kindness while still not guaranteeing it will air anytime soon.

Yea and maybe Chris cares more about the podcast than making sure his guests shit is promoted. Nerdist probably has more listeners than o and a.

I haven't listened to the nerdist until recently but when I saw his list of guests I was pretty impressed. I listened to his shows with Penn, and Patton Oswalt, Bill Burr, Neil Tyson, and Jimmy. Penn and Patton are great fuckin guests on any show. They can talk about anything.

My favorite are actually the "hostful" episodes (no guests). Basically any title that isn't a persons name is one of those. They really are funny guys

I'll have to check some of them out.

Yea it kinda bugged me the last time he was in Opie had no idea how big he was In the podcast world. He usually goes back and forth with rogan for top 3

I didn't love how their argument against Chris here was that they have him on and look what he does to Jimmy. I guess, but last time he was on a "meat distribution" guy got way more time then Chris got. So while there promotion of Chris may have been timely and not delayed like Jimmy's podcast. It wasn't like he was treated like a king and he treated them terribly or something.

Chris does let guests promote stuff obviously, but it seems much different than the radio model. I would say at least 50% of the Nerdist episodes the guest doesn't really promote anything. This obviously didn't work out well with the release date and I can understand Jimmy not liking it. I do have trouble believing it was in any way malicious or intentionally rude by Chris.

As I mentioned in another post on this topic, I asked Chris at the start of last September when Jims episode would air and he said this week. I don't really blame anyone, I think the podcast probably just got forgotten, or was the back of a big queue and they weren't aware/forgot that it was time sensitive. Haven't heard Jim have a tantrum about it yet, listening now though.

I forget what they were talking about before Jimmy brings it up but it is more towards the end of the show. Not sure if it got mentioned during the wrap-up show with Sam Roberts though!

Seems a little blown out of proportion, shit happens so the episode didn't air right away. Get over it Norton, Chris was nice enough to have him on the podcast to promote. Why not get Hardwick on the phone or something to ask him why it came out so late. Hope they don't stop having Chris on the show when he is in NY.

There's some things you don't talk about on the air. Obviously, though, that's not O&A style, as they've burned every bridge they've ever crossed. And they wonder why there's no upward movement...

The way Jimmy is acting, is the vocal equivalent to the silent crazy that is Fez.

Lil Jimmy is catching feelings.

This happens a lot on Nerdist, there have been countless times that Chris will ask specifically when the date of whatever the guest is promoting is coming up and that he'll have it released before then...but that date has already passed the episode's release date. I think it was a combination of getting lost in the backlong (a lot of shows are released months after the fact, and sometimes Chris will acknowledge this in the intro and admit to dropping the ball) and the fact that even though Jimmy was promoting his special it wasn't the focal point of the episode, so they treated it like any other "hang out with comedian friends" episode and released it when the more obviously time sensitive stuff (like the Tom Hanks episode) were all put up.

Jimmy shouldn't take it personally, it's just the way the show works (and he seems to realize this towards the end of the segment). It's not like the radio where you have people in each day to help fill the 20 hours a week of content and it all goes out live, there's only 2 or 3 episodes released each week and the releases have to be planned out accordingly.

spose he thinks Hardwick is a friend of da show

They do get the big names and usually release stuff in time for the project the guest is on to promote. I think they honestly got backed up with scheduled guests that they couldn't get to Jim until a spot opened up. Nerdist's and O&A's numbers are probably comparable so he should feel good about getting exposure to the "nerd/geek" audience that he wouldn't normally have. They get a lot of hits on their YouTube channel and on iTunes.

Hardwick has over 2 million twitter followers.

Opie, Anthony, and Jimmy combined equal about 600,000.

A lot of O&A listeners don't even use Twitter. "Nerds" are more likely to use social media.

And a lot of o and a listeners are truck drivers, so...

Dude no. You need to get out of this mindset that the O&A show has a massive following. Let me know when AMC picks up O&A for the Walking Dead post show. They wouldn't pick them up for a Comic Book Men post show.

I didn't say they have a massive following. I said that they have comparable numbers to a podcast which that in and of itself is kind of embarrassing. The Nerdist Podcast gets 100,000's of downloads a week and "I think" O&A do about the same.

Actually, no, you can't do it that way as you're returning results that include the names "opie" and "anthony" even if the result isn't related to the show.

Take this article - http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/story/2004249/bun-fight-a-false-economy/?cs=1259

By Kaitlyn Opie and she mentions the name Anthony. You guys are pretty loyal, I'll give you that much.

You don't think 'Chris Hardwick' pulls in extraneous results as well?! Explain why it wouldn't. 'Hardwick' is much more common than 'Opie'. Even 'Chris' is much more popular than 'Anthony'. So there would be more extraneous results for a 'chris hardwick' search than 'opie anthony'

Edit: I even found an article about Chris Hardwick in the news that's more recent than yours: http://www.nottinghampost.com/Bar-closed-police-discover-cannabis-party/story-20413279-detail/story.html

Explain? With delight. When checking trends, Google understands I'm looking for Chris Hardwick the comedian. Try it for yourself. Type in 'Chris Ha" and Google will autofill Chris Hardwick - Comedian.

Try that with Opie & or AND Anthony. I'll wait.

*Responding to your edit - That result isn't included in the Hardwick trend because it is not about Chris Hardwick the comedian. All you did was type Chris Hardwick into Google News.

'opie', 'opie and Anthony', 'opie sons of anarchy', 'opie radio' are the autofills for opie. If I actually search 'chris ha' I get a list of Chris Ha profiles on Linkedin. Google Trends is specifically made to follow, what Google has automatically detected as proper nouns.

I guess Google Trends works differently in the alternate reality that you live in.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#

Is that why your Google Trends "Opie & Anthony" search nets zero "news headlines" over the past nine years? Do you see that it does not recognize them as a proper noun when you type in "Opie & Anthony"? You understand that right? Whereas, if you type in "Opie Anthony" or even "Opie and Anthony" their headlines come up. Which of these seems more accurate:

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=opie%20%26%20anthony%2C%20opie%20anthony&cmpt=q

That's a great graph. It shows exactly how there's less interest in the show than 9 years ago. Thanks!

I don't disagree. But you'll admit that you were wrong right?

Clearly there are different results using and vs &. I still feel this shows Hardwick (and Stern)way bigger. Additionally many mentions of the show are by proxy (Patrice benefit/..as heard on) etc. And have little or nothing to do with a radio show.

You were wrong, and it speaks volumes that you can't even admit it. And O&A and Hardwick probably have comparable audiences, but O&A have a much much better gig, no comparison. You're comparing a guy that does free podcasts and pays for all of the background costs for his show, while O&A are on a subscription-based platform with huge economies of scale on background costs, all paid for by the company.

Just so you can make more of an ass out of yourself - how do you discern between legitimate mentions of the two respective shows versus ones that don't count? Would love to hear that one.

Actually Hardwick has more than double O&A's audience and that's just on Twitter alone. Wanna try for TV? That one's gonna hurt. Keep sitting on that bench, crushing peoples heads between your thumb and pointer.

Sorry, I meant paying audiences for their respective radio shows/podcasts. How come you didn't answer my question? Tired of getting your head crushed?

Yeah I'm getting my head crushed by the guy who can't plainly see that 10 is bigger than 1.

You changed the subject to twitter followers and tv numbers because your little Google extrapolation failed, and you can't answer how you discern between legitimate mentions of the two respective shows versus ones that don't count, when you brought that up. But yeah, you're right, I can't see that 10 is bigger than 1. Good luck in school, kid.

You're a good Pest Daahar.

Fuck all that noise. Jimmy's Nerdist podcast was great.

Minor threadjack: Not sure if you guys are Nerdist regulars but everyone should listen to the Rick Moranis episode because A: he's awesome and it's good to hear him in any context and B: after a while you realize he has the EXACT same storytelling cadence as David Lee Roth minus the forced metaphors and "you follow?s"

And sub to /r/nerdist

Cool stuff that Chris showed up here.. and took his beating for missing the mark on the podcast. Outside of that..

I recently started hearing Chris' bits show up on the Comedy Central channel on SiriusXM.. and I had no idea he/you (if you're reading this) were that god damn funny!

When I first saw him (you, if you're reading this.. okay we get the point dummy)..on Talking Dead I thought they got some overeager dude.. nope, he's genuinely into what he talks about, AND.. he's god damn hilarious. Plus.. his show on CC at night is pretty good too..

ps: NEVER again allow Marilyn Manson on Talking Dead.

Jimmy is our sweet boy and we love him BUT lil yimmy has the most fragile ego of anyone on the show. He is very quick to jump off the deep end when it comes to shit about his celebrity.

Probably a lot of it has to do with making content for the air. Lil yimmy just needs a hot can if soup and a hug from a broad shouldered lady and he will calm down.

for anyone keeping score on celebrity redditor posts: opieandanthony 1 howardstern 0

Not that proud of this post

I've been a fan of the show since 98, but that fact is Opie and Jimmy are complete douches. In reality, Hardwick is bigger than the show and opies jerk off self stating he won't have Chris on again means nothing. Dude has a few million followers, hosts multiple shows and has one of the most popular podcasts. Fuck Opie and his jumped the shark 9yrs ago media destination.

Why do people refer to Chris as a comedian? He is an ex host of a dating show. I don't get why he's even allowed to be considered apart of the comedy community. What has contributed to that medium? He appears to be a fan of comedy, which is great, but he's not a comedian.

He's been doing stand-up for at least 10 years that I know of. He had a one hour stand-up special, Chris Hardwick: Mandroid, in 2012.

lol he has not been doing stand up for 10 years. What are you even talking about?

He talks about doing stand-up in 1997 in this clip from Fallon. And Wiki mentions his stand-up being used on Comedy Central in 2004.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnrhwNfOdr0

Pretty sure he has been doing standup since the singled out days. He tours regularly doing comedy.

Nope. I've heard him talk about it. He did some open mice. Thats about it.

Well I guess he has been doing it for the past few years. You don't have to like him but the guy is pretty successful there is no way to deny that. He has a huge podcast network, youtube network, big podcast that gets A listers, hosts multiple TV shows and does standup. I'm a fan of Chris, his relationship with O&A and Norton isn't going to make or break him.

I believe it was only open rats he was doing. In all seriousness, he started stand up in college, before ever being on TV. He's done it very regularly for the last 10+ years.

Believe what you want. Guy is not a comedian, but if you wanna consider an unfunny tv host on the same level as a stand up who's been in the industry for a long time, paid his dues, developed a voice, put out albums, has a following that has watched his material evolve over the years - okay.

Just so you know though, no real stand up refers to Hardwick as a fellow comic, and for good reason.

You seem to be conflating the act of being in a profession with being good or respected in that profession. I happen to think Chris is funny, but comedy is very subjective. If he gets paid around the country to do stand up comedy, I don't really see how you have an argument.

Thomas F. Wilson has a stand up special too. Comics don't respect him either as a stand up.

You have yourself a good day.

Being a disrespected stand up comedian is still being a stand up comedian. How does this not register with you? If people pay you to do something over a decade, you are part of that field. You are again relating respect or skill with being involved. They are 2 separate things.

He's not doing podcasts for his health. It's not his fucking hobby.

It's a very basic quid pro quo ... despite looking that way podcasts can't spend all their time interviewing other people with podcasts, so they need content. Norton wanted publicity for his special.

Norton gave him content, Hardwick didn't give the special any promotion. It's not obscure or complicated to see what the problem here is. If he wasn't gonna run it, Norton could have done a different podcast.

All the other podcasts Norton did that week got their shit in order and did what they said they would, how come Hardwick can't manage the very basics of scheduling.

Instead he sticks him in the freezer for five months, and cunts here think that's how it's supposed to work.

Hey errybody look at this guy

I understand why Jim would be disappointment. I just really doubt it was an intentionally rude or malicious move. This actually happened on Nerdist a while back where an episode got lost in the shuffle and falls months back. Not great, but not any sort of travesty either.

faggot

What kind of tragic clown needs multiple sock-puppet reddit accounts?

http://www.reddit.com/user/planet_bullshit

http://www.reddit.com/user/patricesucks

Probably more too if I was interested to look. You need to sort your fucking life out, this isn't actually how a grown man should behave.

this isn't actually how a grown man should behave.

Yet you get into dick-measuring contests on reddit. You ARE a faggot.

"cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt show reference cunt word ant uses cunt cheeky cunt"

nobody gives a fuck about you so please get prison raped and die bleeding out of your asshole, thanks

What went wrong in your life that this is how you ended up? Is this really how you saw it working out?

That's rhetorical by the way, I don't actually much care about your disappointed parents, shitty family life, current obvious loneliness, or any brain chemistry disorder.

Make some more fake accounts, and go impotently argue with yourself somewhere else, sad mess. This noisy, obvious, attention-seeking of yours is as childish as it is dull as it is pathetic to look at. Your broken life = waste of normal people's time.

First, You're not wrong, but you're not right... Second, who the fuck is this?

Plus the boys had him on, and had shown him some professional courtesy.

you seem to be the cunt that doesn't understand how it works.Nerdists obviously didn't want him around and Jimbo has guilted Softwick into having him on.They probably know Jimbo hangs around Coulter etc.

They probably know Jimbo hangs around Coulter etc.

You're delusional.

You seem to think you work for Jimmy and Chris Hardwick and know the full story. No one knows the actual story here so shut up and stop acting like you do faggot.

do i seem?

I haven't listened to the nerdist until recently but when I saw his list of guests I was pretty impressed. I listened to his shows with Penn, and Patton Oswalt, Bill Burr, Neil Tyson, and Jimmy. Penn and Patton are great fuckin guests on any show. They can talk about anything.

Chris does let guests promote stuff obviously, but it seems much different than the radio model. I would say at least 50% of the Nerdist episodes the guest doesn't really promote anything. This obviously didn't work out well with the release date and I can understand Jimmy not liking it. I do have trouble believing it was in any way malicious or intentionally rude by Chris.

You seem to think you work for Jimmy and Chris Hardwick and know the full story. No one knows the actual story here so shut up and stop acting like you do faggot.

They probably know Jimbo hangs around Coulter etc.

You're delusional.

You're a good Pest Daahar.