Ricky Gervais vs. Steven Knight
34 2013-11-15 by fennisdalcone
I'm sure most of you here know Steven knight from his youtube channel. Ricky Gervais has a new show called Derek where he plays the titular mildly mentally disabled character. He sent out a tweet asking his followers to respond to Derek as if they were Derek's relatives. Here is that tweet and Steven's response:http://i.imgur.com/3UOQeZ4.png
Ricky Gervais responded with this: http://i.imgur.com/rlXIJfW.png
He then posts several statuses about Steven being a troll, but then deletes them and the direct response to Steven. Ricky's followers flooded Steven Knights page accusing him of being a bigot and such.
This whole thing drives me nuts because Gervais has gotten flack for making a 'retard' joke himself: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2110317/Susan-Boyle-hits-Ricky-Gervais-mong-insult.html
Am I wrong in thinking that Gervais is being a hypocrite?
edit: Four were statuses about trolling in general. One said "This little troll is upset because he finally gets the thrashing he deserves" or something along those lines. One of his followers said "look at this guy's twitter page" and Ricky replied "that's the page of a man with no life".
64 comments
55 stevenknight 2013-11-15
FYI, I very much enjoyed the tweets I got and had a fun time replying to them.
3 pbpble 2013-11-15
What did he delete? How many tweets did he send you?
5 fennisdalcone 2013-11-15
Since Steven is gone, I'll share what I saw. Four were statuses about trolling in general. One said "This little troll is upset because he finally gets the thrashing he deserves" or something along those lines. One of his followers said "look at this guy's twitter page" and Ricky replied "that's the page of a man with no life".
The whole thing was bizarre.
9 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2013-11-15
Oh no, I hope Stevey survived the "thrashing!"
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44 koolhandmikey 2013-11-15
Ricky should make it up to Steven by taking another picture of himself looking like he's in mid-laugh.
9 RoosterBrains 2013-11-15
With an awful black t-shirt
40 HANKKKINGSLEY 2013-11-15
Our little monster Stevey humbled Ricky fucked him in the ass in the camel-clutch.
3 hookahreed 2013-11-15
Stevey is AAU champuin and World Heavyweight Champuin!
30 [deleted] 2013-11-15
I like Ricky but his whole "kindness is magic" shit is annoying. I'm sure he's a nice guy but don't go out dictating what's offensive or "edgy" when you made a living off it. Plus Derek is mentally retarded. And a faggot.
22 Bobosgenitals 2013-11-15
Steven had some great lines. "The R-word should be gone from this world" "Redskins?"
21 BIGFATPONY 2013-11-15
Ricky's getting influenced by PC shit, he dosent want people to say midget anymore because he's friend with Warwick davis.
21 creep_boot 2013-11-15
Gervais is a petulant, unpleasant and repellent cunt of the highest order.
Anyone surprised by this hasn't been paying close enough attention.
6 erockarmy 2013-11-15
This. Or as they say across the pond, Thif
20 Buttpudding 2013-11-15
Gervais is a hack. Jay Mohr fucking nailed him and Louie when they were on the show
11 ImOnlyBleeding 2013-11-15
It's a shame he didn't have the balls to do it while they were on together.
11 [deleted] 2013-11-15
He was throwing punches if you listen back, but like he said, he (and no one else) could get a foot in the door.
2 pekingoose 2013-11-15
Mohrz usually dishes a fair bit of shit,this time he had to settle down.
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0 yadungooft 2013-11-15
Mohr was just bitter because earlier in the show louie told him to shut the fuck up when he was rambling over everyone in the studio.
18 [deleted] 2013-11-15
You mean someone preachy and self righteous is also insecure and aggressively defensive?! Never would have guessed!
17 corizmo 2013-11-15
I like Ricky but fuck me, he is awful on twitter. His modern Lennie, without the flaws, is getting fucked with and he is having an attitude that people are not taking it seriously.
16 yeeerrrp 2013-11-15
Had to unfollow him. Too much Derek shit, too many cat pics, too much religious talk.
1 Motorboat_Jones 2013-11-15
I don't care about the other stuff. The Derek shit is enough for me to ignore him. The rest, I can live with but that show/that character sucks.
1 yeeerrrp 2013-11-15
Going back a ways, huh?
1 Motorboat_Jones 2013-11-15
No more than you. The Derek shit is all that bothers me.
1 yeeerrrp 2013-11-15
I mean that you're going back to a 2 month old thread, haha.
1 Motorboat_Jones 2013-11-15
Oh, right. Haha, yeah just browsing among the subreddit.
11 [deleted] 2013-11-15
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2 rumpumpumpum 2013-11-15
Haha! I died reading that half of your sentence!
17 kentrel 2013-11-15
Since Ricky got twitter he's become awful. I've seen a definite decline in his sense of humor. He can't handle being insulted, even as a joke. Steven's joke was hilarious. Even if you don't laugh you can clearly see that it obeys a simple joke structure. You can easily imagine Ricky or Stephen Merchant coming up with a joke like that in the podcast days. Twitter ruined him because he self selects his sycophants. He's lost a lot of his self awareness that made him so good in the early years. Bringing back David Brent for youtube was a huge mistake that would never have occurred to him without twitter fans bringing it up every day.
I watched Derek solely for Karl, but it's an awful show. The melodrama is laid on way too thick. The old people are all cool and dignified in their old age, and their kids are all ungrateful and only Derek and the other staff care about the old farts. Repeat that storyline every episode. Not one old pedophile or cunt in the entire home.
I wish someone would tell Ricky to stop trying to make "Kindness is magic" a thing. It gives me douche chills.
3 YourOldPalHoward 2013-11-15
I agree, but goddamn is Karl Pilkington great in that show.
1 aftonpoften 2013-11-15
Karl is undoubtedly a good actor but you are all correct in saying that the show is somewhat repetitive and lacks the edginess previous shows had and I am now convinced that for Ricky to have a show that's truly innovative he needs his co-writer Stephen Merchant who by the way has his own show now on HBO 'Hello Ladies'.
I haven't seen it but heard it should be pretty good.
7 kentrel 2013-11-15
Hello Ladies is not as good as I hoped but it's decent. Derek is a fairly unique concept for a show but it just repeats the same theme each episode about how old people could never be cunts, and how care workers are so kind and under appreciated, even the retarded ones. Derek forces you to like the characters so much you end up hating them, whiles Hello Ladies forces you to hate the characters you actually start to like them. Gervais forgot all the rules of comedy by making his lead character a perfect angel, and Stephen Merchant went overboard by making his such a one dimensional twat that it takes way too many episodes to like him.
It has a pretty cliched premise, but they've at least kept each episode fresh. Given that it was pitched as a show about an awkward guy trying and failing to get dates they've so far managed to squeeze unique scenarios into that structure. I'm at least enjoying most of each episode.
1 WiretapStudios 2013-11-15
I've watched the whole season now. Initially I liked the cringe factor, but there just aren't enough jokes in the episodes, compared to say, Eastbound and Down. Kenny Powers says some hateable shit, but then he says something so funny that you're back on board. In Hello Ladies, Stephen Merchant does something cringey and funny, but never redeems it with any payoff, jokes or otherwise. His character really is a douche, and you aren't rooting for him to get the girl, which aren't girls that have any redeeming qualities either. I really want to like it, but it has gotten kind of boring and stale by the end.
1 kentrel 2013-11-15
I haven't seen the last two episodes yet, but the fact that I haven't rushed to watch them means I probably agree with you.
I just discovered Wilfred with Elijah Wood. Not really anything like Hello Ladies, but all the writers have worked together on other projects but the quality is so different. It's such a good show, and I keep putting off other things to watch another episode.
1 WiretapStudios 2013-11-15
I'm going to get into Wilfred soon, I've heard the first season is great.
1 YourOldPalHoward 2013-11-15
Weird, I'm watching Hello Ladies right now. It's pretty funny. Some great cringe humor. All the characters are pretty hateable though.
1 phza784 2013-11-15
Ever since he's been on social media he has become much less funny. Reading what everyone say's about him has obviously made him very insecure. And derek and the whole "kindness is magic thing" is so cringy.
1 EdgarsTeethAreDry 2013-11-15
I liked Derek, but you do have a point about it being more repetitive than a 7 episode show rightly should be. The last couple of episodes left me disappointed. What was the point of introducing the rapper character? It was pretty much the same plot as with the young girl. The last episode felt kinda forced, too. The funeral stuff especially. The scene with his dad was nice, but why didn't they introduce that plot earlier, or at least dedicate more time to it? Most of the final interviews had the characters mirror stuff they already said earlier in the series, with the exception of Kev, whose speech at the end I really liked. I thought it was cool to build up his character as comedic relief for 7 episodes to allow him to have a serious moment.
1 [deleted] 2013-11-15
I really don't get into o&a (or their guests') semantics so I will keep that shit goin here...
holy fuck your name is amazing: /u/edgarsteetharedry
xoxoxo
15 bambonk 2013-11-15
Gervais has eaten his balls. Exit, stage left e-venn. Get it cuz he's a snaggletooth
11 LyleChipperson1 2013-11-15
When Gervais was on XFM (a radio show, some of them are on youtube) he did characters such as a chinese man call Ho-Lee-Fook with an over the top accent... to be honest I was going to list them all but I've forgot them, I only listened for Karl Pilkington anyway.
He's made jokes about AID's, gay people, fat people etc while it's on stage it's OK for Gervais to say these things but on twitter it's not?? I think he's only doing this because he got slated for using the word Mong.
Fuck Gervais anyway and who'd know what the fuck Derek would say nobody watches it, the first two episodes were bollocks. The Office was brilliant, then the U.S version came out and is far superior. Steve Carell was better in it.
Godbless Steven Knight for all the wonderful uploads he brings to people like me in the UK who can't listen to O&A. Steven Knight WE SALUTE YOU....tsss....tsss why not Steven Afternoon or sumthin
3 Madrazo 2013-11-15
I agree with you on everything else but the 'Ho Lee Fook' thing was him being ironic and taking the piss out of hacky racist comedians. Same with 'camp david' and stuff, it was deliberate over the top stereotypes.
But yeah, doesn't change the fact that he's a hypocrite who can't take a joke anymore.
3 kimchifart 2013-11-15
I got douche chills reading steven knight's joke. Still love him though.
2 [deleted] 2013-11-15
gervais is a cunt. i like karl and the old xfm show, that's it. i don't know why he's so revered.
2 pmb1288 2013-11-15
Gervais is kind of terrible, y'all.
2 stinkyJig 2013-11-15
Congrats to Steven Knight for giving Ricky a good mushroom stamping.
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6 bambonk 2013-11-15
Ah, fuck him. Deleting the tweets is worse than sending them. If you got an opinion you stand by it and go down with the ship.
1 stevenknight 2013-11-15
If you're referring to me, I didn't delete a single tweet; Ricky did.
2 bambonk 2013-11-15
Nah I was referring to that whimsical elf Gervaise BUT IF U WANNA RUMBLE I'M GAME BRAH
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1 marklarsen 2013-11-15
I can't believe I only just made this connection -- is Steven Knight the same guy as omgwtfitssteve?
5 ted_the_apostate 2013-11-15
no
0 jhohcable 2013-11-15
Ricky is being a little bit retarded it seems.
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-1 CUNTYMOM 2013-11-15
limey
7 [deleted] 2013-11-15
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-9 [deleted] 2013-11-15
don't care.
-16 SpaceEdge 2013-11-15
Yep who is Steven Knight and what does he have to do with O&A ? Next time take this to the StevenKnight subreddit....
11 fennisdalcone 2013-11-15
Most of the videos here are uploads from his youtube account. Ricky Gervais has been on O&A quite a few times. Jay Mohr called out Ricky on being an asshole while on O&A. I dunno, thought it was interesting watching Gervais meltdown.
9 Buttpudding 2013-11-15
You're a mod here and you don't know the number one content provider for your sub? Hahaha, thats terrific!
-16 SpaceEdge 2013-11-15
And I've been around the O&A download community since 99/00 people come and go. He isn't special, I can name 50 people who used to record and pumped out more content the he does. When he decides to quit you people will all forget about him within a week. Seen it happen over and over again.
3 yadungooft 2013-11-15
StevenKnight has been the most proficient youtube uploader of any show I've ever seen. Everyone on the show knows his name and they have actually referenced and used audio from his uploads on the air several times. He is beloved by a lot of us. That's why your whole too cool for school attitude has gotten you all the downvotes and rage.
3 Buttpudding 2013-11-15
Its not that steven is special. Any Shlub can upload audio files to youtube. Its that you are a moderator of this subreddit and you didn't even know the name of the guy who's youtube vids are consistently on the front page of this subreddit.
-11 SpaceEdge 2013-11-15
Exactly so why would I pay attention to who the uploader of the video is ?
-14 evadcobra1 2013-11-15
Thanks Steven Knight, for the summery of your own drama
14 fennisdalcone 2013-11-15
I'm not Steven.
2 krbin 2013-11-15
Correction: That would be /u/stevenknight
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9 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2013-11-15
Oh no, I hope Stevey survived the "thrashing!"
2 bambonk 2013-11-15
Nah I was referring to that whimsical elf Gervaise BUT IF U WANNA RUMBLE I'M GAME BRAH